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Up In The Air / Re: United MilePlay is back again
« on: Yesterday at 07:03:14 PM »

Just Shmooze / Re: Bill and Melinda Gates
« on: May 04, 2021, 01:16:55 PM »
Turn volume up.

Just Shmooze / Re: How Would You Know a DDF Account Was Sold?
« on: May 04, 2021, 01:13:36 PM »
@Something Fishy posts that he's in Israel.

Just Shmooze / Re: Car Leases
« on: May 03, 2021, 07:34:46 PM »

No. But there is something we humans like which is called humor. A segment of humor is called exaggeration, in which we stretch small circumstances to make it sound much more extreme than it is. I believe that the OP was a human, and his intention was for that human type of humor.

Hope this clears up the confusion. Over and out.
No need for captchas anymore, @YitzyS has confirmed my humanness!

on a side note that whole industry did go up 50%
A lot more than that.

Because Ive shared some videos, while refraining from sharing others, let me ask - where do you draw the line as to what could/should be shared? From these events, there are videos of people going down the ramp, pretty innocent looking, and not really graphic, but yes some of those individuals died shortly after. Insensitive to share? On the other end are videos of body bags and videos with credit to נ.מ. Those I felt are too insensitive to share anywhere. Then you have the videos that fall in between. The pileups in the beginning but you dont see people choking out. I shared but marked as graphic.

I dont know if theres a right/wrong answer, but curious where do you draw the line personally? If enough people answer a certain way it would help people like myself become more sensitive to others.
Firstly I have to say I respect your openness to change and your willingness to ask.

Personally I would not post any of them. The biggest concern I have is family members seeing it or hearing that these videos are out there and in my mind if there's even a small chance that it could hurt someone then why post it. I can't even imagine what the relatives are going through right now and I have to assume that even videos of their relatives walking down that path would be aggravating as some of those people were literally walking to their death r"l.

Marking it as graphic definitely helps to give people the choice as to whether they want to watch it but doesn't really help the families who have to deal with it being circulated. Could be useful for other situations where there's no concern of family seeing but concern for people watching.

That's my option but I'd love to hear others.

Just Shmooze / Re: Interesting Articles...
« on: May 02, 2021, 11:03:01 PM »
This is NOT an interesting article, but I feel like it could win the award for least-newsworthy news article in the world.

If anything speaks to the severity of this inyan, I think this sums it up:

כל אלמנה ויתום לא תענון. אם ענה תענה אתו כי אם צעק יצעק אלי שמע אשמע צעקתו. וחרה אפי והרגתי אתכם בחרב והיו נשיכם אלמנות ובניכם יתמים

One thing I'd add is that I find it appalling that some of the fundraiser pages for victims' families are using pictures of the rows of body bags.

I hate to get dramatic but just picture this: At 11 pm Mrs Young Almanah finally finishes crying her brood of fresh yesomim to sleep and gets a minute to herself. She picks up her phone to see who donated to her family's page so she can thank them personally and she's confronted by what? A picture of her husband lying on the ground in a body bag among dozens of others. Who's gonna take responsibility for her tears??

I know the organizers definitely mean well and likely want to get people's emotions to encourage donations, but please just post one of the thousands of happy moments of a father with his beutiful family- don't use the pictures of the tragic end!!

Over the past few days countless videos of the moments following the Meron tragedy have been shared on social media (including DDF), and I've been thinking about how awful it must be for relatives of the niftarim to see these videos or hear about them. It's bad enough that so many families in klal yisrael just lost a parent, husband or child; they certainly don't need their relative's last breaths being shared endlessly online.

True, most of the videos of the recent tragedy don't focus on an individual person, but do you not think it still hurts? And some do show specific people, like the horrifying video of a dying child helplessly reaching out to a cop before collapsing. I can only imagine that family's horror and trauma when they find out that that video is out there.

Some (including tabloid-style frum news sites) have spread these videos simply as news content to satisfy people's itch to see what happened. I'd like to think that most on DDF are above that, but it seems that we still want to debate whose fault it was and did the police block the path and was there a gate and was the gate was pushed aside before people fell or after. But can we maybe forgo figuring it out in the interest of protecting the privacy of klal yisroel's newest yesomim and almanos? Can we leave the graphic videos for the state commission or a court to decide whose fault it was?


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