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Amazon & Walmart Deals / Instapot DUO80 7 in 1 - 8qt $79.99 on Amazon
« on: December 03, 2018, 02:29:10 PM »
Instant Pot DUO80 7-In-1 Multi-Functional Electric Pressure Cooker, 8 qt

No longer available on google express via target. Check your email for targeted $10 google express coupon.price went up to 139.99

General Discussion / Re: Dan's Tesla Thread
« on: December 01, 2018, 11:15:56 PM »
Seems like the price dropped $3000

General Discussion / Re: Dan's Tesla Thread
« on: December 01, 2018, 09:06:25 PM »

General Discussion / Re: Dan's Tesla Thread
« on: December 01, 2018, 09:04:40 PM »
and there goes the expected price drop....

cheaper at costco if you have membership

Up In The Air / Re: El al flight arriving close to Shabbos - again
« on: November 26, 2018, 09:22:04 AM »
Btw, what is someone who lives in the US supposed to do with a RT ticket to Europe?
That part makes sense. The customers were not happy with their trip to Athens so they are getting a complimentary ticket to Athens.


26" Roadmaster Granite Peak Mens Mountain Bike $59 from Walmart

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« on: November 20, 2018, 02:55:02 PM »
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General Discussion / Re: Dan's Tesla Thread
« on: November 18, 2018, 07:38:49 AM »
Those were just the private ones, and were blacked out to begin with.

General Discussion / Re: Dan's Tesla Thread
« on: November 17, 2018, 11:37:44 PM »
Looks like you settled on blacking out the email addresses

I think the gra shul had a bunch of minyan I'm back in the day, but not sure.

Tech Talk / Re: Security Cameras and Access logging on Shabbos
« on: November 13, 2018, 10:10:39 PM »
I thought the argument was:

Koseiv midrabanan and lo nicha lei because: if you trigger the motion you don't care for the recording. If an intruder triggers the motion you didn't cause the recording.
thats one argument if you assume it’s a melacha in the first place

Tech Talk / Re: Security Cameras and Access logging on Shabbos
« on: November 13, 2018, 11:32:05 AM »
If the true issue is kosev, then it wouldn't make a difference if the camera was always on or not, because no matter what causes it to record, you are being recorded in it.
If it's set to motion the DVR actually lights up when it starts recording

Tech Talk / Re: Security Cameras and Access logging on Shabbos
« on: November 12, 2018, 10:22:27 PM »
I was reading this other thread about the Ring Camera and shabbos, and it spurred me to thinking about Shabbos and Security in a more general sense. In light of what happened in Pittsburgh, I know that this is on the forefront of everyone's mind in the Jewish World, I also know that these are complex issues and need to be addressed with one's LOR for their own individual piskei halacha. However, we're on the Internet, and I'd love to hear people's opinions, especially from those who may no more than I do when it comes to technology, halacha or both.

the original thread is here:

So here are my questions:

I imagine, that because many shuls have them, there is a source for a heter for security cameras on the perimeter of the shul. I would also imagine that all of these cameras are recording on Shabbos - does anyone know the source for this? Is it Pikuach Nefesh? Machmas Chisaron Kis (in the case of vandals?)

If a shul has a heter for security cameras, why not a private home? Is it because the threat is greater? (i.e. more visible and more people)

People have tossed the idea of the video falling under the category of 'D'Lo Nicha Lei' - i.e. it records on Shabbos, but you don't care about using the video. Would that only apply to a non-backed up video?

As a side note to 'D'Lo' Nicha Lei, would that also apply in this situation - someone has a mechanical/electronic hybrid lock on their front door. On shabbos they use the key, and the lock logs that the door was opened closed, but unless you check the logs, the user of the key isn't aware that this is happening. How would that fall under shabbos?

... and finally, given Pittsburgh, do you think that Rabbonim will now start being more meikil on these type of things because the threat level of pikuach nefesh has increased?
many many  shuls  have cameras that are recording on shabbos.

Tech Talk / Re: Security Cameras and Access logging on Shabbos
« on: November 12, 2018, 10:20:58 PM »
If I could figure out a way to have the camera shut off at one random time every day, then even if you held that walking by as a psik reisha it would be ok to walk by because maybe the cameras are off now.

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