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Moron.

All he had to do is take some precautions. He sounds like the losers in brooklyn

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Lakewood covid cases
« on: October 02, 2020, 01:07:48 AM »
stop making things up You don't know what you're talking about You're full of <redacted by mods>...

You have repeatedly posted stuff that doesn't make any sense..

You don't know this for a fact nobody knows anything for a fact people do know for a fact that some people are getting reinfected.

All that means is that, people going around without wearing a masks without any precautions because they got it already, can actually be spreading it again.

So just shut up with made up <redacted by mods>

You said both very low and then you said basically zero.

Very low? Sure.. implying otherwise, How would you know?

What if some of these reinfection cases have no symptoms?


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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Lakewood covid cases
« on: October 02, 2020, 01:06:01 AM »
The chances of being reinfected are still extremely low, the fact that there are a few reinfections doesn't change that. Knowing that you still have antibodies means the chances of reinfection are basically zero.

stop making things up You don't know what you're talking about You're full of <redacted by mods>...

You have repeatedly posted stuff that doesn't make any sense..

You don't know this for a fact nobody knows anything for a fact people do know for a fact that some people are getting reinfected.

All that means is that, people going around without wearing a masks without any precautions because they got it already, can actually be spreading it again.

So just shut up with made up <redacted by mods>

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On The Road / Re: Earn Hyatt Globalist status with 20 nights in 90 days
« on: October 01, 2020, 01:44:59 PM »
It just took me to sign in

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« on: September 30, 2020, 08:02:03 AM »
Holy smokes!

https://collive.com/mask-patrols-to-fine-people-without-masks-in-nyc/

Reading the comments here and WOW it's like so many believe covif is fake?!?

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« on: September 30, 2020, 02:08:05 AM »
I can agree as far as wearing it in stores or even sitting in shul listening to krias Hatorah.

Speaking from a community that wears masks, I cannot agree that people donít complain about davening with a mask. Many find it difficult to daven in a mask.

It is disruptive to davening. Standing staring at a patient for 6 hours in the OR is not the same as enunciating the words of pesukei dzimra for 30 minutes on Shabbos into a mask. It gots hot very fast, and I have tried many different masks.

But I do wear a mask because that is the rule of my shul and most others in my town.

Up until now I didnít feel that masks were warranted. In the last week or so probably hundreds of cases have been imported to our midst so now that there is a first wave I feel masks may be warranted and will be wearing unbegrudgingly.

Masks doesn't seem to be preventing people from talking to each other.

Yes, when I take off the mask it seems to geshmak.

But it's still childish, I hate wearing a bicycle helmet, it makes me sweat and I love the breeze in my hair ..

Any Rav or Rosh yeshiva that doesn't understand community spread, brings up bigger issues.

Is there concern if community members say "Rabbi, I find it hard to daven with a mask on"

And so they say, don't wear a mask, rather than people rushing through davening or staying home.

What if I say, Rabbi, I find it hard to walk to shul on Shabbat, you ok with me driving ?

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« on: September 29, 2020, 04:44:08 PM »
The mesorah was broken in a sense when the leaders went from being rabbonim to roshei yeshiva.

Very interesting that you say this;

My Rav is the Rav of a very large shul and daily fields hundreds of questions.

His father was the Rav of one of the larger communities in brooklyn and av beis din.

There was always from the beginning, clear medical guidance and advice.

I know I often come off as porek ohl, but I'm frustrated in general at people who both refuse to adapt citing mesora and as well just make up new things and ignoring mesora.

The ben sorer umoreh is described as naval birshut hatorah. If he ate trayf meat, it wouldn't apply.

If one stands in rabbinic authority, they need to understand the situation before paskening.

Gone are the days when it's about bringing your chicken to the Rav, it's about being a manhig.

"But my Rav doesn't involve himself in outside shtusim"

What kind of Rav is this ?!? Yes we made parallel to the situation in Europe in 1938.

There was tons and tons of evidence to support precautions, there was even more unknowns which should have raised a flag of simply "well, it's a shema or a bari or whatever, err on the side of caution"

So many members in this forum trashed me, said I have no idea what I'm talking about etc .

Maybe I don't, all I advised, was caution.

Sure I find the mask uncomfortable, it fogs up my glasses (I can't really understand why anyone needs glasses during shul.. unless you're blind as a bat without them or nearsighted)

I saw many people make real efforts, one guy wore a mask over his mouth but not nose, rather than half doing it, he wears a plastic face shield too.

Reminds me too of th sign I saw in this coffee shop bathroom "employees must wash hands before returning to work" and under it

"You too, don't be gross"

Oh wow! Washing your hands with soap or using sanitizer is Soo bad! Maybe it goes with the chareidi prohibition against showers ?

Watching the elderly generation of rabbanim and carriers of mesora die out, is sad

Reminds me of Rav matisyahu solomon speech at (11th?) Siyum hashas 

I remember very clearly how Rav solomon said "if all the roshey yeshivas, if all the talmeidei chachamim, if all the ehrliche yidden were still alive, imagine how much more tangible our mesora would be"

What's wrong with a Rav saying "we don't know . Err on the side of caution?!?!"

When did yiddishkeit become about being comftarble? Are they extending these leniency to all sheilos?


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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« on: September 29, 2020, 01:47:24 AM »
Attacking reporters will endear you to the press (not)

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Chochom Einov B'Roishoi
« on: September 27, 2020, 12:33:13 PM »
One suggestion: everyone should stop bashing rabbonim, effective immediately. And I mean all talk, even those who add disclaimers.

ďIím sure Iím not understanding him or Hashem is withholding wisdom because he wants the pandemic to spread, but I canít talk to my Rav anymore because he turned into a brainless zombie who is trying to get us all killed.Ē

Any talk that denotes even a smattering of disrespect towards our rabbonim is deadly. It counters all the good of these forums.

Why ?

Why do rabbanim get a free pass ?

If people won't take health precautions because rabbanim didn't rule so, the rabbanim should be taken to task. Maybe not bashed, but to task.

The earlier premise was that rabbanim didn't get involved. We see clearly that's it's dray aroom!

Every day I see corona deaths whether on kikar shabbas or wherever and pleas to support almanos and yesomim.

But a cognitive dissonance and a refusal to act is causing untold deaths, are they taking achrayos for the lives lost? For the almanos and yesomim?

Anyways, I can't recall ever mentioning somebody. I have no idea the name of a single rabbi in lakewood.

I address the broader situation. No one can claim they didn't know.

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Lakewood covid cases
« on: September 24, 2020, 02:32:58 PM »
Why does anyone not think that if The Jewish community gets it really badly they are not spreading it?

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« on: September 23, 2020, 11:02:48 AM »
That may be true but the positive rate is now over 10%.

It said 26% in chareidi area's

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: What is FL hiding?
« on: September 22, 2020, 01:35:12 AM »
I don't agree with the opinion that no additional precautions were taken. From mid-to-late July, there was a big surge in mask usage from what I saw. Coincidentally (or not) around the time Trump changed course on masks.

Every store ive been in, requires mask usage. Also the availability of masks is better and socially more pressure.

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Lakewood covid cases
« on: September 22, 2020, 12:37:18 AM »
Umm. So your blaming the Jews for the infections all over the country?

If you cannot see beyond that, you should take reading comprehension.

In the community, it had leveled off, due to strict rules and people having gotten it and elderly and at risk isolating etc ..

Many people are also super cautious.

But then everyone said it's gone, despite that being a ridiculous statement.

As was outlined many times and is universally known as the domino affect.

Or as my 3rd grade Rebbe in yeshiva taught us, if you double a penny every day for 60 days, you'll be the wealthiest person in the world

If I had one cent that doubled every day for 60 days, how much money would I have?


1. 1 cent

2. 2 cent

3. 4 cent

4. 8 cent

5. 16 cent

6. 32 cent

7. 64 cent

8. $1.28

9. $2.56

10. $5.12

11. $10.24

12. $20.48

13. $40.96

14. $81.92

15. $163.84

16. $327.68

17. $655.36

18. $1,310.72

19. $2,621.44

20. $5,242.88

21. $10,485.76

22. $20,971.52

23. $41,943.04

24. $83,886.08

25. $167,772.16

26. $335,544.32

27. $671,088.64

28. $1,342,177.28

29. $2,684,354.56

30. $5,368,709.12

31. $11,737,418.24

32. $23,474,836.48

33. $46,949,672.96

34. $93,899,345.92

35. $187,798,691.84

36. $375,597,383.68

37. $751,194,767.36

38. $1,502,389,534.72

39. $3,004,779,069.44

40. $6,009,558,138.88

41. $12,019,116,277.76

42. $24,038,232,555.52

43. $48,076,465,111.04

44. $96,152,930,222.08

45. $192,305,860,444.16

46. $384,611,720,888.32

47. $769,223,441,776.64

48. $1,538,446,883,553.28

49. $3,076,893,767,066.56

50. $6,153,787,534,133.12

51. $12,307,575,068,266.24

52. $24,615,150,136,532.48

53. $49,230,300,173,064.96

54. $98,460,600,346,129.92

55. $196,921,200,692,259.84

56. $393,842,401,384,519.68

57. $787,684,802,769,039.36

58. $1,575,369,605,538,078.72

59. $3,150,739,211,076,157.44

60 Days - $6,300,478,422,152,314.88 USD Dollars

It takes 27 days to reach 1 million and from there it's a nice ride to the top (till you divorce your wife . Then you go back to day 59)

I've never been to Lakewood, my argument is about how things grow.

Yes, every day, more infections mean more have it, will have had it, be immune to it, less spreading.

It also means that every day, the possibility for it spreading, grows.

Hence, wearing a mask, works!

 

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Corona virus and your shul
« on: September 21, 2020, 11:40:44 PM »
There's a huge gray area here and it's pretty serious to see caution thrown in the wind for the sake of what some people consider critical.

It's just what you build off, we go from covid+ minyan where folks are walking to shul (due to false info, they may not wear a mask)

They may be stopped by a friend to say hi and figure it's outdoors, no big deal..

"But the Rav said it's ok for shmuli to go to shul, I can go see chani, her whole family got it"

Your arguments merely back the concern, humans are weak, someho people keep quoting daas Torah.

Who is daas Torah?!? What happened to everyone's fanatical chumros, this guy is crazy about possible gebrokhts and this guy spends 3 hours buying an esrog..

But man, infect other people? No big deal!

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