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Just Shmooze / Re: Why do so many people still support the Mir?
« on: April 08, 2019, 10:01:55 PM »
Whatís your goal. To pressure the powers that be to go back to the old ways? Itís their yeshiva now. Get used to it. All yeshivas undergo change. The Chaim Berlin I went to wasnít Rav Hutners. Rav Shneurs BMG was very different than Rav Aharons. And the Mir has had very different leadership and mashgichim over the last 200 years. Thatís the way it goes. 40 years from now I guarantee it will not look anything like today.

You could start this thread for many other organizations and mosdos. Time for you to move on and accept the Mir for what it is m, not for what it was 20 years ago.
Youíre right all yeshivos change.

Here is different.
They run around talking about how R Nosson Tzvi was so warm, tried to build a kesher with each talmud,cared about each one Talmud like it was his kid, had an open door, and gave everyone a chance.
Weíre continuing his legacy....


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Just Shmooze / Re: Why do so many people still support the Mir?
« on: April 08, 2019, 09:55:36 PM »



Disclaimer: I never did "the Mir" or know a whole lot about it. But targeting a specific Yeshiva, when this is an issue with 90% of Yeshivas in the World seems like there's a story behind this.

I donít know of any other yeshiva that changed as quickly and as drastically, with barely anyone noticing.
This was literally ויקם מלך חדש

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Just Shmooze / Re: Why do so many people still support the Mir?
« on: April 08, 2019, 08:48:20 PM »
Why is it anyone's business what other people donate to. If you don't like it, don't give money. No reason to stop other people. Not to mention the lashon hara that's probably involved here, there are probably many organizations/mosdos/tzedakas that ppl have assumptions about, and the op didn't feel the need to "enlighten" everyone about all of them. He obviously has a bone to pick, and it looks childish and pathetic to do it on a public forum. Plenty of people have been rubbed the wr9ng way by different mosdos, and most do not feel the need to announce it to the world.
Sorry buddy, you missed the point.
This isn't about bashing random mosdos.
I'm calling attention to the fact the Mir is UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT. And few people have realized.
If you like the new management, then no problem, go ahead with business as usual.





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Just Shmooze / Re: Why do so many people still support the Mir?
« on: April 08, 2019, 07:01:40 PM »
There is nothing wrong (perhaps) with someone losing favor for a Yeshiva and stopping to donate. Airing the grievances on a public forum is something else entirely. I would advise you delete the posts, or get a rabbi on board.

Again, I have absolutely no connection to the yeshiva. My position is solely as an Orthodox Jew.
Iím not complaining about the Mir.
Iím asking how dumb can their American donors be?
Why give money today based on the Mir legacy or Reb Nosson Tzvi? Heck, even the older faculty of the Mir thatís still alive are being overrun by certain younger ppl.
(@YitzyS I wonít mention names as I donít believe that is right.)

The bottom line is:
If you like the way the current administration is running the ship, then by all means, donate.
But give your tzedaka elsewhere if you liked Rí Nosson Tzvi or the way he ran the Mir, because that place no longer exists.

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Just Shmooze / Re: Why do so many people still support the Mir?
« on: April 08, 2019, 05:17:01 PM »
Don't know much about the mir today in comparison to the past, but wow this post screams lashon hara.

Why would someone be distraught because people contribute to a Yeshiva?
Let's see how distraught all these people are when their kids don't get in. They'll regret every penny they ever donated.

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Just Shmooze / Re: Why do so many people still support the Mir?
« on: April 08, 2019, 05:12:46 PM »
+1000 well put. Ppl don't really look what's going on today they just feel connected to what it once was. Plus all the prestige and all that comes with it +++. Also shows how strong a brand is, even if the quality isn't that great the brand just powers thru.
True, this is an example of a broader problem where people send their kids to legacy Yeshivas that have very strong pasts and were led by Gedolim in the past, but are currently failing many bochurim as the leadership is out of touch with the current needs of today's generation.

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Just Shmooze / Why do so many people still support the Mir?
« on: April 08, 2019, 04:54:13 PM »
So last night the Mir held their annual dinner and it got me thinking: Why do so many people still support the Mir?
Obviously many people have tremendous Hakaras Hatov for the years they spent there.
But the Mir has changed radically with the passing of Reb Nosson Tzvi ZATZAL. It's under new management. The warmth, the achdus and the feeling of being part of something, that existed 10 years ago, just isn't the same today.
As it no longer has an open-door policy, many of those that attended the dinner last night wouldn't get accepted if they would be 22 today. And many of their sons won't be getting in when they become of age.
Rabbi Beinstock was shown the door. Reb Nissan Kaplan left as well, I'm not sure exactly why.
They both opened their own yeshivos.
Rav Berel Whitman was also told to leave, but I hear they let him back quietly.


True, they have thousands of people learning all day. But so do Chevron, Ponevezh and many other yeshivos.
And there are American yeshivos in EY like Eichenstein's, Feivelsohns, Rubenstien's, Yagdil, Reb Dovid, Reb Sholom Shechter.....
Why not support them?

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: Cleveland Master Thread
« on: April 05, 2019, 02:58:00 PM »
Chef Dave has announced his resignation...about time.
did something happen?

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Just Shmooze / Re: Ever wondered how to spend $72,000,000,000?
« on: April 05, 2019, 01:26:31 AM »
you may want to know more about his marriage before you say that
Why? Itís called pilegesh

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Goods For Sale/Trade / Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« on: April 04, 2019, 04:36:13 PM »
Selling one marriott cat 1-4 7 night cert titanium account for $600

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: Cleveland Master Thread
« on: April 02, 2019, 10:09:57 AM »
That's what cargo pants are for
True, getting your BYOKSML past the stadiums TSA is usually pretty easy, especially by baseball.

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: Cleveland Master Thread
« on: April 01, 2019, 10:48:29 PM »
My guess is that it wouldn't be have been hard to kickstart the difference or find a corporate sponsor for something like this.
Why not involve the community in decisions like this rather than let everyone gossip?
Beats me.
Father and son at the ballpark just ainít the same without the dogs.

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: Cleveland Master Thread
« on: April 01, 2019, 10:42:55 PM »
How is this a fact?
How did costs go up over the past 5 years and how much more did CK ask for?
I have that on good authority.
If you donít wanna believe me, thatís fine with me.

I didnít get details on your second question.

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: Cleveland Master Thread
« on: April 01, 2019, 10:16:21 PM »
Please stop putting words in my mouth. I am reporting facts.
Me too.

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