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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: February 24, 2019, 10:13:03 AM »
How will they learn their lesson if they are only victims and do not share blame for the mess they got themselves into? That they should have been more responsible does not absolve the scammers, but that they were victims of a scam does not absolve them from digging deep into how they got there. Not only the irresponsibility of what they did, but also the underlying attitudes that led them to fall in. Of course, the scammer who took advantage of them is millions of times worse.
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 anyone out $100k has learnt their lesson, they donít need our musar

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: February 24, 2019, 01:03:24 AM »
too late.
Oh donít worry. There will be more. Whether itís a cc farm, Ponzi, MLM, swipe for points, or some new scam, many in the frum community:
1) blindly trust anyone with peyos.
2) donít view cc swiping as lending (& think u can dispute anything)
3) are just plain naive

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: February 23, 2019, 10:27:03 PM »
Unless there is undeclared income and then the IRS will want its share. Additionally by Madoff those that came out ahead were required to return their profits to the victims.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-recovering-madoff-money/

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: February 23, 2019, 09:50:06 PM »
There's tons of massive financial success in the community. (And it's not by being professionals.) I fully agree that the gashmius/materialistic values is our biggest problem, but is driven by financial success.

There are theives as well, and I'm sure some who borrow to live the lifestyle, but they can't be the majority.
True, most people donít steal to live their life in luxury, but as a community we got a HUGE problem keeping up with the Joneses/Schwartzes
What % of the frum community do you think lives within its means?

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: February 23, 2019, 09:32:23 PM »
Do people realize that the logical next step is the banks and FBI getting involved against the victims for fraudulent income declarations?
Do the ďexpertsĒ here think thereís really a chance that the victims can sit?

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: February 23, 2019, 08:55:33 PM »
they had 4 INK cards $50K on each
Still not 15k every 6 weeks, itís once per year

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: February 20, 2019, 10:02:09 PM »
This thread has been quiet for two days
I guess thatís good news

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Have a bunch of 60k nights and 2 50k nights, you book.
$330 for the 60k
$290 for the 50k
FIRM!

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: February 17, 2019, 07:39:54 PM »
i wish you were right! But unfortunately youíre not.....
With the exception of the CH court docs, the ratio of Hock/talk to details on this thread is staggering

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Goods For Sale/Trade / Re: Selling New Bugaboos- Starting at $579
« on: February 08, 2019, 02:17:31 PM »
These are all brand new, in the box, in the plastics, and include the standard Bugaboo warranty. THEY ALL INCLUDE BASSINETS.

Bugaboo Buffalo in black
$579 base model
$670 complete with black fabric set.

Bugaboo Cameleon 3 aluminum/black
$630 base model
$725 complete with black or off white fabric set

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Just Shmooze / Re: Deals on deathwatch.
« on: February 07, 2019, 09:22:07 PM »
GB?
one DP isn't enough to gain entry to this thread.....

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Because they know the whole thing is ridiculous so they may as well try to capitalize on it.

Also, in this facebook/instagram/(insert you social media of choice) infested world we live in, what was once considered shameful and should remain hidden, is now very much open and public  :-\
+1 if they were indeed guilty, they would've hung their heads in shame and never taken a single video, let alone call a news station.

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: January 29, 2019, 10:00:41 AM »
I wonder what percentage of frum Jews believe a frum Jew would never steal

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: January 29, 2019, 12:30:47 AM »
But he's aloud to pay the interest as a gift
not according to my LOR and another posek that supposedly knows biz halacha.

I've heard it might b ok to have him pay me for something else and pay me extra if it's not clear why he's paying extra. Also possibly to have someone else pay me for him, as long as my friend is not obligated to pay his friend back. Now back to regular programming...........

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: January 28, 2019, 11:29:31 PM »
I used a friend's cards in my business, 10+ year's ago. Needless to say, when things went wrong with biz, he was down a lot.

We paid him back in full including all interest. But it's really not some place I want to be again.

Has anyone thought of the bigger picture here? Why do people trust companies to pay their cards ?!? Why?!? Where is the legally binding contract that holds said company owners legally responsible and their house as eschrow?!

Besides for 100k in debt, that is what, $30k a year interest?
I'm not a Rav, but I had a similar situation where someone used my cards and incurred interest (and was willing to pay the interest) but my Rav said he can only pay me for what he swiped, not any interest. I'm saying this as a PSA, even when you trust each other 100%, watch out for interest cuz u can be on the hook for it.

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