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Deals/Deal Requests / Re: HOT! Free $5 Amazon Gift Card (and potential for much more!!!)

« on: February 15, 2015, 06:07:44 PM »

Looking for a referral, please pm me

Already been referred.

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Goods For Sale/Trade / Re: Short/Long term apartment rentals in Israel Master Thread

« on: February 04, 2015, 11:07:36 PM »

Looking for a long-term rental in the Sanhedria-Ramat Eshkol area, 1-2 bedroom preferably furnished.
Please pm with any possibilities!

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Up In The Air / Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)

« on: January 06, 2015, 08:29:14 PM »

One way
1-stop max
From: JFK/EWR
To: TLV
Departure dates: 4/14, 4/15
Class: Coach
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: Any

TIA!

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Goods For Sale/Trade / Re: Dell Gift Card Sales

« on: November 06, 2014, 09:00:05 PM »

Looking to sell gift cards that expire very soon:
$25- expiring Nov 13
$125 and $25- expiring Nov 20
$13- expiring Nov 13

Looking for .7, pm with offers

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Goods For Sale/Trade / Re: Dell Gift Card Sales

« on: October 13, 2014, 11:35:03 AM »

Looking to sell GCs expiring in the middle of next month:
2x$125, 2x$25 and 1x$13
Looking for 70% OBO for all.
Please PM with offers.

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Just Shmooze / Re: Shlomo Yehuda Rechnitz Article

« on: August 19, 2014, 05:40:39 PM »

Doesn't seem to be which way? I never professed to know the reality

Well, you kind of continued the argument of the previous poster who said the reality is that a guy can't get a girl who's out of his league. When I argued this point, you said that hishtadlus must take into account reality, which implied that his opinion is reality.

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Just Shmooze / Re: Shlomo Yehuda Rechnitz Article

« on: August 19, 2014, 05:29:57 PM »

I didn't create any realities or leagues. Wish I could though.

The reality as it is now doesn't seem to be this way. There are families with money that are makpid on marrying wealthy, but usually this is only from a "practical" standpoint, and even these are willing to be mivater for the right shidduch. In terms of looks, 99% of girls aren't makpid to have a guy they consider as "attractive" as they are. So a guy who isn't good looking nor has money has quite a shot at dating girls "out of his league" and in reality is maasim bchol yom.

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Just Shmooze / Re: Shlomo Yehuda Rechnitz Article

« on: August 19, 2014, 05:17:12 PM »

Hishtadlus may be a personal cheshbon and not for others to judge, but the cheshbon in determining what is your Hishtadlus must consider reality.

Of course. But you're the one creating this so-called "reality" that there are leagues when it comes to superficial qualities. In my opinion that's pretty ridiculous.

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Just Shmooze / Re: Shlomo Yehuda Rechnitz Article

« on: August 19, 2014, 05:15:35 PM »

I think the idea that people should be supported in learning is part of the problem.  In the alter heim, there were very few people who learned full time with no parnassah.  In the gemara every amora had a job. 

This model of a kollel society is not sustainable and I think that is part of the underlying shidduch "crisis".

Woah. Support for your comments? Every amorah worked? This argument is age-old, the taanaim argued about the proper way to go about learning and living, and people far greater than you and I have discussed this topic, our input is meaningless as to what is "right." Bringing proof from earlier generations where people who made a living at the same time as learning is ridiculous, unless you mean we should be like the Rambam's "Baal habas" who learned 9 hours a day. Nowadays it's hard enough to be properly holding in learning as a full time yeshiva bochur, let alone working.

The kollel lifestyle isn't meant for everyone. It requires a full-on commitment regardless of support, but when done properly, this is what am yisrael survives on through the generations.

When a family decides to support children in learning it's a beautiful thing as they are showing they appreciate the true importance of learning by supporting the children who are fully capable of using the support to its fullest and fulfilling their potentials as best as they can, in the best possible way-sitting in learning.

If it's not financially possible, then there's nothing to speak about. Everyone has to do the best with what they're given, but they also have to do their best to sacrifice for causes they believe in.

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Just Shmooze / Shlomo Yehuda Rechnitz Article

« on: August 19, 2014, 03:35:10 PM »

True that G-D is the master shadchan but people have to do Hishtadlus and be realistic and not bark up the wrong tree. It probably wont get you very far if you have nothing going for you and all you are looking for is the daughter of a multi-billion dollar CEO who is less than a size 2 and just drop dead gorgeous. You have to know where you are holding and broaden your playing field to people who are somewhat near your league.

Hishtadlus is a personal cheshbon, it can never be used on a scale larger than that. In terms of being "realistic," again, everybody has their own cheshbon, which is completely personal and can't be figured out nor judged (if ever) by someone else, let alone on a large scale. But again, the point is that there are no "leagues" when it comes to the less important qualities like looks and wealth. If people feel more entitled because they've been blessed with those qualities, that is their prerogative and takes some serious cheshbon as to whether or not they have the proper negiyus.

You're 100% correct that people must know where they are holding, but knowing where they are holding means in the important aspects in life. If they're specifically looking for wealth and looks to the exclusion of the much more important qualities in life,they are way off hashkafically. Those type of issues aren't causing girls not to get married, require their own forum to address and are rooted in much deeper issues.

However, to say that a bochur who isn't good looking and doesn't come from any particular wealth can't be looking for someone he's attracted to, and has the means to support his serious learning lifestyle isn't fair. Once he's made a real cheshbon hanefesh to decide what he's looking for, he can come to the conclusion that these are the qualities, among others, that his zivug will have.

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Just Shmooze / Re: Shlomo Yehuda Rechnitz Article

« on: August 19, 2014, 03:07:50 PM »

No, he said the people group other people into leagues

Confused as to which side you're taking :-)

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Just Shmooze / Re: Shlomo Yehuda Rechnitz Article

« on: August 19, 2014, 12:47:58 PM »

People try living in denial and don't recognize who they really are.

Ah. So you're saying that G-d groups people into "leagues" based on the amount of mazal in looks and wealth that He grants them? I find it hard to believe that when the Malochim call out potential zivugim, HaShem turns to em and says "c'mon, she's gonna be WAY out of his league, what are you thinking?? I plan on having her born to a CEO and this guy's fathers a Rebbe! How can he possibly expect to marry her??

It's one thing to be moitzei laaz on bochur for focusing on less important (though important to an extent) attributes of a girl, but to say that he isn't "entitled" to look for certain qualities because he himself wasn't blessed with certain G-d given qualities is absurd.