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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: October 24, 2018, 03:23:55 PM »
Who cares if it is a dump. If you promised someone to pay for an item, you have to pay them.

Why not just kick people off your group after a certain amount of time of inactivity?

we started to block portal accounts thats a way of knowing if you can't login consider were not gonna take yours

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: October 24, 2018, 02:01:45 PM »
Then who cares if a customer is a longtime or one time customer?

One time customers are fine. its just when the one time buyer shows up with just the bad item nothing else from the list and he's been signed up for the group 4 months and now when other groups refuse it he's brining that item which is $300 can't be to help him with a speeding threshold most of time its a dump

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: October 24, 2018, 01:58:26 PM »
Yes but screwing them over isnít as bad of a business decision as screwing over a big time and loyal customer is.

by MYS we treat both with same respect

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: October 24, 2018, 01:46:48 PM »
What did the occasional buyer do wrong?
Don't you want them too?

I have nothing against small time buyers there perfectly fine. Sorry I didn't put better punctuations in there

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: October 24, 2018, 01:01:25 PM »

True. At this point some groups try to buy as much themselves as just the credit card points make them more than the profit they make.

Exactly

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: October 24, 2018, 12:57:06 PM »

Well said. Amazing how a companies that are making gobs of money, are so busy with all these petty things and screw their buyers.


There is no gobs of money like buyers think many things that are bought are penny margins, 2 years ago sure globs these days no globs lol

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: October 24, 2018, 12:49:26 PM »
Thatís not what you said in the emails back then... Either way I have nothing against you personally, I wish you much success. Iím just pointing out that you should take all this feedback to heart.

I appreciate all feedback and I love all feedback or criticism it helps a lot

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: October 24, 2018, 12:32:34 PM »
Maybe, but he still came across as quite arrogant to me. This is a problem with other buying groups as well, they are pretty cocky and assume they will have buyers no matter what.... USA dropped commissions significantly because they believe that buyers will preform regardless. I think time will show that the buyers will get fed up when there isnít enough in it anymore for them. This applies to all groups, but the attitude that his success is his buyers problem makes it that much worse.

You may not know me but I'm far from arrogant or cocky thats not who I am I'm prob one of the most honest truthful people out there and if I came off as that I apologize cause not my intensions.
The game has definitely changed in the 6 years I'm doing this for both the owners of groups and buyers not as much money as people thing there is I miss the good old days the game will likely be over sooner then later as not many places to buy from like there used to be.

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: October 24, 2018, 12:22:39 PM »
I love how Mark Mann comes on here and says that everyone bashing his vague terms are just jealous of his success. As I stated earlier I personally would not buy for you since you hijacked USAís list. Thatís a person I canít trust. Forget about me though, you have people that are already buying for you, telling you to cut out these vague terms. You have people that are already buying for you telling you to cut out this business where your potential loses are the buyers problem. I have no clue how many buyers you currently have, but I am assuming you are looking to grow. My free advice is why not take this all to heart and change your approach, and your relationship with your smaller buyers.

As an aside to say we all jealous of you, makes you sound childish. I personally (and yes I am very familiar with the inner workings of a buying group) would not touch it with a 10ft pole.


Im not sure who you are or who told you what but I never hijacked USA list we had two separate groups then we merged list then when we split ways gave the buyers the option thats all

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: October 24, 2018, 11:31:29 AM »
What about some type of "forward order confirmation to email address" system (that other company types use)? It will certainly take programming / development work on your side to get set up, but can be considered minimal hassle for buyer (much simpler then filling out form), and you still get the info you need.

I did that a while back not everyone comply, good idea but still something buyers won't do

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: October 24, 2018, 11:20:08 AM »
The problem both sides are having is the lack of transparency and communication. I haven't bought anything for USA or MYS, so not really familiar with their protocols or procedures (maybe some of it is already in place, and if so, maybe needs updating / tweaking to be viable).

Back when ExcellPurchase was running, part of the instructions / terms of their deals were:This helped them monitor what the projected sales / commitment volume is, and know who their loyal customers were.

There's no reason why other groups don't make you do this (if can't add right away, at least within 6-12/24 hours (or another reasonable amount) thereby proving commitment (both ways) and loyalty ahead of time.

From the group side, obviously taking into account that some estimated orders might be cancelled (and if they are, buyer should update the order status to cancelled, and include reason (dropdown with reasons like: store cancelled order, decided to keep item for personal use, gave item to another buying group, other).


We would love to do this and I know other groups would to. But we believe it would discourage buyers to buy as buyers are looking for the simplest easiest less hassle group around. hence why there is no more uploading tracking for delaware

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: October 24, 2018, 11:17:46 AM »
I've had nothing but positive experience with MYS - same as with all groups. But I want to keep it that way and be cautious. I can't be buying things without a guarantee they'll be taken. What I don't understand is why they can't use the USA method of guaranteeing each purchase while at the same time, cancel buying after a certain point and requiring proof of purchase if necessary. That system seems perfect and doesn't cause buyers like me to get turned off from ambiguous rules. What is wrong with that system @Markmann20 ?


i'd like to clarify something very simple here. When we sent out the message about the ps4 it was unclear as to who what when and were. Anyone who reached out to us as we wrote and that can prove was bought before was taken off the list was accepted happily. But there have many times when the group that everyone keeps mentioning has literally turned away almost all there buyers cause they just didn't want to take the hit cause the market dropped like crazy which caused a increase in pick up and drop off off by us after there message was sent. There were those Buyers were just brining that item and not other items from the list. And if someone comes with just the item that went bad you can very simply see anyone with a head on ddf can agree that either (A) he's looking to dump or (B) he mamish only bought that item and is small time buyer who just does for the spends. Its very simple. and easy to tell.

We will be more clearer on when deals are off the list so you know when the 10 day terms start. One of the reasons for these new terms is cause people were just waiting till last minute or brining very late. as long as item is dropped off in the 10 days a buyer really has nothing to worry about

Ill leave off with this Boruch Hashem there are people who are not happy with MYS success and are still trying to bash the name on here and with out bad PR many successful companies would not be around today "Bad PR is good PR" . I wish those people much success in life. If there are any other concerns about the new policy please feel free to let us know, as well id be happy to clear up any mis understandings

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: October 23, 2018, 08:51:49 PM »
It would seem that this rule may be fair in concept, but customers are much more encouraged, and likely to participate, when there are clear, transparent, universal rules, knowable in advance before pulling the trigger.
(i.e. if you didn't spend $XYZ/month in the last month/year, you're on your own)
you don't want your good customers needing to guess 'where they stand'
(and no, nobody wants to need to contact customer service for this)

Obviously if they are good customer or frequent buyers they have nothing to be worried about and they don't need to guess were they stand. if a buyer feels like he has to worry about us not taking from him he should reach out if he feels like that

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: October 23, 2018, 04:10:07 PM »
In this industry most of the groups are more or less buying the same stuff. There are many people that buy and then whichever group is most convenient to give to/is paying the highest commission will get all their stuff. I understand nobody wants to take the hit on these PS4s,but to have a policy of 10 days from when it's posted and then go back on your word and say that only applies to certain buyers is just bad business. AND A LIE. AND UNFAIR. Time will tell if people stop buying for groups that aren't honest.  (FYI- I didn't buy any of these PS4)

Why should any buying group take a hit on someone who hasn't brought anything in weeks or months he's coming to the group to dump cause the groups he normally buys for turned him away or he was selling on his own online and he can't sell anymore.

The policy is very simple its 10 days from when its off the list if the market falls on it we are happy to take it and take the loss but someone who shows up just brining that item and hasn't given in a while we can refuse just like other groups do were just the only ones making it known.

Basically make-sure which ever groups you order for have your back

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: October 22, 2018, 09:57:10 PM »
Its very simple MYS for the longest time has always honored the pricing for all buyers even when market falls or a item has a price drop we always honored and we take the hit no issue if the market falls.

We now are putting in to affect that a buyer who lets say hasn't bought in a month or more and all of a sudden whatever groups he was buying for starts rejecting stuff so he comes to MYS to dump the product that his new group is rejecting we have the right to refuse it if you would like to know your standings with MYS you can chat with support to find out as we have a great report system.

But a buyer who is active more frequently we are willing to take a loss on cause we are committed to our buyers unlike other groups who will reject you even if you are loyal to them cause they don't want to take a hit cause this game is a penny game sometimes not everything is a win win

if you have any further questions or concerns or anything at all you can feel free to contact me about anything MYS related

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