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Perhaps this means you can use physical SIM from another carrier provided you do so than fewer than 7 days? <shrugs>
I asked this exact question to a Rep who told me, it won't invalidate the promo, it will just delay the amount of time needed to be eligible...

Just Shmooze / Re: Buying Group Master Thread
« on: December 26, 2018, 06:56:10 AM »
Machloikes in metzius..
Let me help you with math $257.99 is $8 more then $249.99

I also clearly mentioned that buying at 249 even if it wouldn't be a loss but severely cut into their profit margin possibly making it not worth it.. (depending on how desperate you are for pieces etc)

As I stated above different ways that they sell it have a different profit margins..

Credit Cards / Re: Chase Offers
« on: December 25, 2018, 11:02:29 PM »
30% back Staples max $19

Just Shmooze / Re: Buying Group Master Thread
« on: December 25, 2018, 09:47:42 PM »

Ok so you're saying that the buying groups are losing money because there's a rumor that it may go down to $219 in the future? That doesn't really make sense.
Either way, you said that there was a price drop. What price drop??? As of now the prices are just creeping higher.

Not to start comparing but any commidity changes prices based on rumors etc

It dropped from 349/329 249/229.. rumors aside, it does seem the prices are returning to regular/ sales ending.. and possibly next week the price will rise and there won't be any "loss" (depending on how much stock at what price/how fast it sells)

The "loss" I speak of is that currently they're buying some iPads from buyers at $257.99 (keeping to they're commitment) and currently selling for less. It's very possible that no loss will actualize.. however to currently buy at 249 would be cutting into their already slim margins if not an actual loss...

Do you have any clue? Or just what your "insider" acquaintances tell you?

Yes, I've seen the actual numbers from multiple places

So once it hit 229 they stopped telling people to buy at 249? Didn't know that part.


They stopped buying at 249 after the drop. Regular retail is 329, the fact that Amazon is still matching some better deaals does NOT mean prices are creeping higher, rather returning to the mean, with some extra LOWERED prices temporarily. The original 249 deal was based off the retail price of 329, and when it lowered, the market dropped.

This is all in theory, but Iím guessing Iím right, especially based off of what @Eliyohu was saying

Yes, more or less...

Just Shmooze / Re: Buying Group Master Thread
« on: December 25, 2018, 03:07:28 PM »

That was Walmart's price too? Or only Amazon's?
Basically, where did it lower in price that they're saying they're "losing money off of the iPads"?

Both.. and there's rumors that the 32gb will be on sale for $219 in the near future

So can I label this as bs? :)

Huh? Do u have any clue what the profit margin on these things are? Fairly often the commissions are higher percentage in profit per item then the groups are making per item.. obviously depends to who/how it's sold

I think that is complete BS based on the fact that some of the groups currently want you to buy the 128gb at 349.99

The info I heard was for the 32gb that were selling for $229. Although I would imagine it's similar for 128gb.. possibly the groups that are buying those for 349 have buyers who are willing to pay more or they plan to hold them..

They claim they sell it to a large foreign distributor/wholesaler. In that case, their buyer wouldnít necessarily be paying relative to retail price, rather relative to the price at which they could get it. But idk. Maybe.

The market for these items fluctuates and although there's a prettty stable price from conventional distributors secondary distributors/ traders etc.. have a price range and it fluctuates by the day.. (if the foreign buyer goes looks on say Amazon and sees x price, he's only willing to pay a small premium over that, even if it's not exactly accessible to him)

Just Shmooze / Re: Buying Group Master Thread
« on: December 25, 2018, 08:54:31 AM »

This whole thing is ridiculous having to double check each order to ensure the same price you were promised. If at one point in time it was worth giving $7 commission, it should still be semi worth it even when it sparingly drops on Amazon by $20 (it depends on the minute of the day as the ipads have been in and out of stock and at different price points every day).

Maybe the best option would be to remain at the higher promised price and that would attract a lot of the "dumpers" to give them to that particular group. The amount earned by the bulk may cover that difference plus some.

The iPads that USA is still paying $257.99 on.. they're losing money... The many different "insiders" I've spoken to say that indeed the market does drop, when even a single retailer price drops, like it did for these iPads from Walmart, even if Amazon is only sparingly selling them at the lower price..

Just Shmooze / Re: Buying Group Master Thread
« on: December 24, 2018, 02:44:24 PM »
Your thoughts?

Email was sent out to buy item (only one item in the email).
I bought 6 items within 2 minutes of email being sent out and only once they were delivered did I notice that I paid $25 more then the email stated (although when they sent the link  it was for the price I paid).

Do I now need to suffer the $150 loss? Can I force them to return it?.
Similar thing happened with me, I asked USA nicely, and they graciously gave me back the item..

Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« on: December 23, 2018, 11:19:12 PM »
I used to get that lehovin magazine delivered to my door every few weeks,
and now it started coming to my mailbox
Does anyone know  whoís behind it and how to stop it?
There's actually a video going around of someone returning them to sender...

If you find out let us know..

Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: Re: Live Antarctica Trip Report
« on: December 23, 2018, 04:27:30 PM »

Not sure what you misunderstood here.
There were other Jews on our cruise and we invited them to Shabbos meals, kosher food, etc.

The problem would be if there were Jews who specifically booked passage on the cruise while paying 5 figures just to take advantage of their services without paying the small premium for those services.

That didn't happen, but it could have been quite awkward. In the end we had an amazing array of Jews from all walks of life and it was truly special.

Nobody did that. In the previous thread I was referring to the theoretical.

Was there or wasn't there others on your cruise? Which part is theoretical?

General Discussion / Re: Haters, Threats, And Trolls
« on: December 22, 2018, 10:19:11 PM »

Absolutely insane. TJB should be ashamed. They showed how pathetic they are, and clearly have no clue how the industry works. I'd say ignore, and if they follow through with any damaging threats, shut them down.

No reason to assume, join one of they're groups and check the admin number...

Just Shmooze / Re: Buying Group Master Thread
« on: December 21, 2018, 12:29:44 AM »
Why isnít that pure fraud that can land the perp in jail?
It very much is, but for some people the extra few 100k a year (w/o exaggeration) is the difference between making it through the year or having a great year... Risk vs Reward..

Just Shmooze / Re: Buying Group Master Thread
« on: December 20, 2018, 09:01:59 PM »

USA doing what USA does. #PS4CLASSIC

USA is a S*** Show. Forcing people to return an item and not honor their price

Not gonna defend them..
1) What will happen if you refuse, the message I got doesn't sound like they're forcing you, just asking nicely...
2) they're offering to pay commission on returning it...
3) I'm assuming all they want is you to forward them a return label..
4)they're only doing this for the $99 not the $74...
I do believe they should just eat the loss..
But if this is how they want to go about it, then it's a two way street and if the commission goes up for example the coins  etc... They should do what's right and go ''lfni'm mishuras a business deal"...

Just Shmooze / Re: Buying Group Master Thread
« on: December 19, 2018, 07:17:35 PM »
have definitely had most success with Antonline but not 100% success. Just had 7x cancels / refunds on PlayStation classic a few weeks ago. Though to your point maybe it was ebay not them.
The PlayStation classics was the one deal within the last couple years that seems to have been cancelled for everyone.. it's pretty funny cuz the buying groups didn't want them at that price.. I wonder if one of them reached out to him and ask them to cancel...

Just Shmooze / Re: Buying Group Master Thread
« on: December 19, 2018, 04:39:36 PM »
no DE is preferable and more profitable. I usually fail tho
Why is de more profitable for BBY?
This was a scheme done in the early buying group days Idk if itís still done
Still done, but mostly eliminated the need for the groups.. it's more profitable that way

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