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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Masks
« on: Today at 12:14:02 AM »

Another example of the stellar logic that permeates DDF

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Lakewood covid cases
« on: Yesterday at 08:38:52 PM »
My friends father just got hospitalized...

Say tehillim for-
דניעל בן אישה חיה
(pronounced Ay-sha)
Refuah Sheleima! What’s the situation?

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If the vaccine rollout looks anything like the testing situation in many places, we'll get the country vaccinated by 2025.
I tried to get a test today due to some mild symptoms but no dice.
My doctor couldn't get a test scheduled in office until Friday.
Ditto for the 4 urgent care centers that I tried which offer "walk-in" "no apt needed". Apparently you " walk-in" after you schedule a virtual appt with one of their "doctors" and then your assigned a slot to "walk-in"  "no appointment required" after you go through that. The earliest they have available is Thursday afternoon....

Way to go Charlie....
It’s really easy to get tested in Lakewood. Sounds like a local issue.

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Masks
« on: Yesterday at 08:21:37 PM »
https://www.amazon.com/wecare/?tag=cl03f-20&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Full disclosure, I work for the company that sells these, but I wore these the entire Rosh Hashana davenning comfortably. The tests described above have been performed by unsolicited reviewers. Plus they are individually wrapped which keeps them sanitary to throw in your kid's backpack, your pocket, your wife's purse, etc. And they come in kids and adult sizes.
Like this if you only clicked to see where @Yehuda57 works ;)

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Lakewood covid cases
« on: Yesterday at 08:13:50 PM »
The smaller the yarmulke the bigger the mask
I’ll pass that message along to Rabbi Zimbal, who wore a mask all davening on Rosh Hashana

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Lakewood covid cases
« on: Yesterday at 04:16:46 PM »
Assuming it will just move elsewhere; presumably BMG doesn't want it because of optics.
Agreed

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Lakewood covid cases
« on: Yesterday at 04:16:24 PM »
A friend’s mother has double pneumonia and very low oxygen (she’s getting oxygen at home) but is refusing to go to the hospital against the urging of Hatzalah and Bikur Cholim.

Dr. Liebowitz has COVID. Side note, the State called him before Rosh Hashana to confirm that Lakewood shuls were going to be fully masked.

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Masks
« on: Yesterday at 04:13:08 PM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/516827
It does seem more and more that medical masks are nearly as effective as N95s in preventing transmission, while cotton masks are less effective

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The cited article says they'll have that many does by the end of 2021, not this year. Also, it says they'll know if it works as soon as October. That doesn't mean they'll know if it's approved at all, and "as soon as" doesn't guarantee that the timeline could also be later.
You are correct, I skimmed the page too quickly

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The UK is implementing a serious lockdown right now, they said explicitly that it can last for 6 months.
The UK is beginning to implement a new lockdown, and I believe they said some of the new restrictions they are putting in place can last 6 months, not a total lockdown (of course). Either way, this is not what the author of that piece was referring to, he referred to ongoing lockdowns.

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https://sebastianrushworth.com/2020/09/19/covid-19-does-sweden-have-herd-immunity/
Of course, anyone who lives in the Jewish community in the tri-state area (or any logical person) knows that claiming proof of herd immunity is complete bunk, and a few months of quiet in no way shape or form means you’ve reached herd immunity. Life is comprised of S-curves.

“Ongoing lockdowns in the UK etc.” is a straw man as well, of course. What is he talking about?

Some of what he said is true and is common knowledge.

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Pfizer will know if their vaccine is approved within 5 weeks and manufacture 1.3 billion doses this year

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.html

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Lakewood covid cases
« on: Yesterday at 01:56:51 PM »

A vaccine being distributed does not mean COVID ceasing to exist. It does mean abandoning the vast majority of precautions people are being asked to keep, and probably will stop the need to implement extreme temporary measures every so often altogether.

I think a vaccine is coming a lot faster than the end of 2021.. End of this year is almost certainly going to happen. You do realize there are currently 2 vaccines in use by major world powers already as we speak?

This does not mean COVID will be completely over. But it will completely change the way we approach it.

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1. The fact that Dems lobbied against holding up an election year nominee in 2016 is irrelevant. Republicans clearly set a precedent there.

2. What we Biden meant in 1992 is irrelevant as it was never put in practice by Democrats. Moreover, if the "Biden rule" really was the basis for the Garland situation, even more basis for Republicans not to move ahead now.
Honestly. Do you believe the Democrats would have behaved differently, then and now?

This is obviously not a valid stand-alone excuse. I’m just curious what you think.

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COVID-19 Discussion Board / Re: Lakewood covid cases
« on: Yesterday at 10:14:35 AM »
We're already 6 months in and there's no doubt in my mind this will continue for at least another year if not 2-3 years. I remember being mocked for asserting this won't be done by the end if the year.
People mocked you for stating that COVID would exist through 2021 and beyond? If so, they’re nuts.

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