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How To Use Google Voice When Traveling To Israel Or another country?   A common Question that's always asked about GoogleVoice.
   How? What? Where?
(Need to make a video when I have some time and patience explaining all the steps.)
 But just read the post and I'm sure you'll be able understand. And of course if you can any Questions post away and I'm sure someone will answer or I will try to answer myself.
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  I'm traveling to Israel and I want to be able to make and receive phone calls, just like I would be able to do in america.( For all practical purposes I'm going to use Israel as my destination vs any other foreign country which would be the same steps.) ‎
    And that's all possible with Google Voice which is actually free!
  The only thing you would pay for is a sim card in the country your going to visit, and I will explain why you should get a sim card from the country your visiting VS using your american carrier which has data in many other countries.
 It's pretty straight forward once you get the hang of it and go through the steps once.

 Reason why I would recommend to get a sim card from the country your visiting vs using your own;‎
 Your data, the reception and quality of phone calls is two different levels, when your going to use your american carrier which will be roaming on Israeli networks, the Internet does not work well.
 And especially for a google voice account when making calls if you don't have good service the calls will be quite choppy, I've tried it myself on T-mobile, Sprint, Verizon. All of those services are great but not when traveling abroad to ‎Israel and relying on it to use for Google Voice.
     
 I reccommend you set up your Google Voice account before you leave your home country.
 The steps are as follows,

1- You need to make sure you have these three apps downloaded, yes three of them, which im not sure why, but if you want it to work properly and be able to make phone calls you should download all three.‎
(One) app called "Google Voice"
(Second) app called "Hangouts"
(Third) app called "Hangouts Dialer".‎

2- Now after downloading all three apps go into the google voice app and create a google voice number which you like, now in order for you to have downloaded the google apps it has to be you already have a Gmail account connected to the google play store which would mean in the google voice setting there would be at least one Gmail acount there to connect a GV number to.
 And the reason why I'm mentioning this I will explain a bit later, as another option to make calls will require a 2nd Gmail account "without" a GV number.(Continue reading..)

3- "Settings in the phone". You will find this all in the "hangout app" on your device.‎
 This is a very important step, if there's one small setting not correct then the whole google voice will not work properly or not ring at all.
  a) There's an option "Notifications" make sure everything is allowed in the settings of the phone and app settings.‎
 
b) Next option will show your Google Voice number, make sure you have enabled the incoming calls option, (when I say enabled it should be marked in the green showing its on.)
 Make sure messages is enabled as well.
 And then a bunch of other options like GV sms and and voicemail, you can set them however you like and custamize the notification sounds.

 c)Now on the "Google Voice" App there will be an option which says devices and numbers, that's where your number will ring when someone calls, whether it being a desktop or your phone or phones.
   As well make sure the settings "making and receiving calls" is set to prefer wifi and mobile data Vs use carrier Only.
   Then there's an option call forwarding, that will enable you to select which devices should ring and which not.‎
    And you can set the option whether to hear callers name before or not, myslef I don't like people knowing it's GV so I diabled that, and email alerts and all the other little stuff you can play around and set to your hearts desire. ‎


4- So You have your american number which we will label for all practical purposes 917-987-6543, Now you would go into the call settings or depending on the phone carrier will depend what options you have to set up call forwarding.
 Now with "Tmobile" you can simply go into the phone icon and then go into the settings and set up call forwarding to the GV number you set up. Meaning if your google voice number would be 347-852-3698 then that number you would enter into the call forwarding options of your phone.
 Each carrier being different your best option would be to google how to set up call forwarding for sprint, verizon, At&t.. or simply make a phone call to the carrier and have them manually set it up.
   Now I'm telling you to do this while your still in the US and not once you leave. To elabverate I've been able to change the call forwarding on my T-mobile phone no problem on my own, but for a sprint plan it required me to call the carrier to have them manually set it up to forward to my GV number as I was not able to set it up as I was in a different country.
   So to make life more simple just set this up before hand and all your calls will come into the google voice app which will ring just like your regular phone would. While your in the airport you can set this up, or randomly try to set call forwarding to the gv number to see if it works and you'll be familiar with this the next time you need to set this up.

5- Now You have your google voice phone ringing when someone tried to call your american phone and you can act as if your still in america.‎
 But how can you make a call without the need to use my GV number which noone regonizes?
 Also quite simple.
 Number one you will need a 2nd Gmail account connected to your Google voice account, now like meantioned before "Do Not connect a Google Voice phone number" just create an account.
 Now once your in the Google voice setting click on the Gmail account which has no Google Voice Number connected to it, and there should be an option to enable outbound caller ID, if you don't find it in the GV settings then go into the hangouts app and look In the settings there which should have an option for enableing Outbound caller ID.
     Once enabled you will be able to make outgoing phone calls from that 2nd gmail account while using your american number, and you don't have to worry that your making a call abroad with your american phone number, you won't be charged anything as long as it's coming from the GV app and not from the actual phone.(Same idea as Wifi calling with T-mobile.)

 6- Some people like forwarding the Gv number to their own cell phone and the texts coming into the gv number to their own, that's really easy to set up but not really helpful in this situation. ‎ 
  ‎
 And of course if you actually learnt something and got your Google Voice rolling because of this post feel free to hit the like button.
   

December 10, 2019, 06:40:03 PM
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE

I am almost done making this phone kosher, I have been personally using it now for almost 2 months. It will be one of the most popular devices once i am done.

May 25, 2020, 01:59:08 PM
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Riots Related  A Judaica store somewhere in New York came up with a clever idea to protect their business by posting for rent signs on the plywood that were used to board up, hopefully keeping the looters away.

June 02, 2020, 09:42:42 PM
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
Please like if this helps you.
LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different massaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $150

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system.


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)

Verizon Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.com and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.
Great List! Thanks for the shout out to KosherCell. Just a correction, the website is KosherCell.org not .com.

The reason people use Sprint so much is because it's way cheaper per month. Like $8 on Tello instead of at least $19 on Verizon for unlimited.
Another benefit with Sprint is since they haven't shut down 3g yet, you can get cheaper devices. We have numerous options with kosher 3g Sprint devices. Best of all... you can get the qwerty keyboard phones.
Anyone remember and miss the blackberry phones with the rolling trackball? Those are available in kosher versions (talk and text, no picture mail) for Sprint MVNO's as well.

The NUU phones come in Talk only and Talk and Text versions. Geder and TAG recently requested that all versions block video playback and video recording so it's blocked now. The NUU is officially a Carrier Unlocked phone and should work well on At&t and T-Mobile as well. Though you may have some initial trouble getting the APN settings set up correctly.

June 26, 2020, 10:56:50 AM
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Great List! Thanks for the shout out to KosherCell. Just a correction, the website is KosherCell.org not .com.



WIKI updated.
Anyone can update a wiki, click on the upper left '[ Edit ] - Topic Wiki'. If you make an error, you or anyone can revert it back to the way it was.

June 26, 2020, 01:14:48 PM
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Re: Internet Filters
I personally dont have, but I have heard nothing but rave reviews about Techloq. Expensive, but everyone says worth the price.
+1; as everyone here knows I became a huge fan and they are are working on adding features.

June 28, 2020, 12:14:01 PM
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Re: Internet Filters big fan of Techloq as well.
They respond so quickly to emails with questions/unblock requests

June 29, 2020, 01:22:37 AM
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
orbic journey L is really a bad phone

In what regards?
By chance, I used today this phone from a friend and it's unusably slow!

August 11, 2020, 12:32:07 AM
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Lots of sellers on eBay with unlocking codes. Find the model number and ask the seller.
Found a legit site for $50, will give it a shot so we can know if it’s doable at all.

August 24, 2020, 09:08:04 AM
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Found a legit site for $50, will give it a shot so we can know if it’s doable at all.


August 30, 2020, 01:08:19 AM
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Re: LG Classic Any update on a way to block texting with an autoreply to the sender?

Calling all DDFers: if you'd like this feature to be introduced, please "like" my post

December 08, 2020, 03:16:14 PM
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Looking for good quality non-smartphone with a full keyboard, to be used with a SIM on one of Canada's leading networks (Bell, Telus, Rogers, Fido).

All suggestions appreciated.
'Non-smartphone' and 'full-keyboard' don't go together anymore...
My only (somewhat) suggestion is www.thelightphone.com with it's on-screen full keyboard.

December 09, 2020, 09:59:23 PM
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Re: LG Classic by Kosher Cellutions
Regarding the poll, have a hard time voting, because I doubt I'll even pay $175 for this phone
+1

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January 27, 2021, 05:25:46 AM
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Re: REVIVE THE PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD
  I find that last quote to be quite ironic!
 I guess you changed your mind.
 Look what DDF did to you!

If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em...

January 31, 2021, 11:59:03 PM
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Re: REVIVE THE PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD
If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em...
I guess so.
  Even mr opinionated hopped onto the band wagon trying to see if he can pull through with a device!

February 01, 2021, 12:09:49 AM
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