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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 11, 2016, 01:23:28 PM »
Why is it GG's responsibility to be that? The 5T couldn't support Brach's, but it's not GG's or Seasons' responsibility to replace it.
But they can't force one from not coming in.

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 03:36:16 PM »
My source at GG told me the KRM deal feel through because one of the principles of KRM was sick and they felt this was not the right time to focus on the Lawrence store. GG was approached by Yanki & KRM to see if a deal can be saved without anyone losing money and it was.

This area also has a ridiculous amount of options to go shopping (GG, Season, Frenkel's, Stop & Shop, Foodtown, Trader Joes and Costco) If people feel that is not enough, then go to Brooklyn every 2 weeks, stock up on meat and call it a day. Nothing wrong with buying groceries at 2 different locations.
Not any affordable options to buy kosher food.  Also it does seem odd that such a large Jewish community doesn't have an affordable option.

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 02:02:59 PM »
Let me get this straight. When Brachs was around GG had their inflated prices and was doing tremendous amounts of chessed. As you said, You had no issues with their high prices and they weren't yet engaging in "evil" activities. Then Brachs closes krm attempts to open a store. For some reason krm backs out and you assume the worst and that gg is evil and greedily screwing all of the 5 towns. I'm inclined to at least be skeptical of such claims.
Also nothing technically wrong with charging inflated prices but if they are this massive chesed organizations as Ppl are claiming why not start at home?

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 02:01:15 PM »
Let me get this straight. When Brachs was around GG had their inflated prices and was doing tremendous amounts of chessed. As you said, You had no issues with their high prices and they weren't yet engaging in "evil" activities. Then Brachs closes krm attempts to open a store. For some reason krm backs out and you assume the worst and that gg is evil and greedily screwing all of the 5 towns. I'm inclined to at least be skeptical of such claims.
one thing is certain is the GG was involved in this deal.

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 01:55:00 PM »
+1. So we have 3 just here in this thread.
-1 we have 0 that were told not to publicize it.  That's what we were discussing

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 01:51:58 PM »
I understand, I just think it's horrible to accuse them on conjecture.
maybe but i dont feel bad. If they were such good ppl and loved doing chesed they would help their OWN customers who cant afford to buy food instead of sponsoring little league etc.

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 01:48:37 PM »
No, not that part, although they didn't.
thats the only part we were discussing. We know they do chesed. Just they do it for PR.

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 01:47:51 PM »
Neither of us know the numbers, but is it so hard to believe that KRM simply didn't think it was worth the investment, and the cost if the repairs was the straw that broke the camel's back?
Of course its possible but still hard to blv. 5towns has 1000s of families waiting to shop at a store like KRM also IF they were told or even hinted by GG that if they move in they will drop their price then of course it wont be worth their investment.

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 01:45:49 PM »
So it must be true.
never said that. i just said it maybe hard to really prove.

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 01:45:23 PM »
I do not find his story hard to believe, because I know others who are recipients of their chessed.
that were told not to publicize it?

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 01:19:40 PM »
GG and KRM compete as much as Whole Foods competes with Western Beef or C Town. They are serving two different constituencies and in a capitalist society we are blessed with multiple options as to where to spend our hard earned dollars (or use our EBT cards). If this conspiracy theory that GG pressured KRM not to open in the space Brach's vacated is true and you have some verifiable evidence that took place, report it to the Attorney General and let the legal process sort it out. If it's just conjecture and hearsay, then I cannot understand how one could justify impugning the good name of the owners of GG. As for myself, several years ago GG provided me with hundreds of dollars of groceries for free at one time with the caveat that I not publicize it. If you want to know the specifics, PM me. Also, where is Seasons in all of this?
We actaully dont have multiple options. Seasons wasnt involved in KRM deal. I find your story hard to blv since they do publicize all the chesed they do.

and do you think reporting it to the AG is a good option? It hard to find proof that will earn a conviction and alot of the community will  be against you because of reporting to the authorities "when it can be dealt with inside the community"

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 12:50:54 PM »
I love how everyone here talks as if they know whats going on
I have yet to hear a reliable sourced story about what really happeneed with KRM and Brachs so until that point  :-X
well GG is not going to come out and say we forced KRM out so we can rip you off.

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 12:49:24 PM »
I don't get it why would GG be so concerned with krm if brachs was full and didn't effect their operations?
Greed and KRM is cheaper

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 12:40:44 PM »
Gotcha is it verify that I they actually did that
No but - KRM was going to open in Brachs - GG got involved all of sudden they aren't opening anymore.

Im guessing by telling KRM if they open they will drop their prices 30%

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 12:37:43 PM »
From what I hear it is significantly cheaper at least for meat. Whats wrond with going to 2 stores ?  If you want the convenience of a one stop shop you may have to pay a premium.
Just to clarify I'm not saying I don't hear your frustration- I feel the same way that their prices are inflated. But that doesnt make them evil and deserving of curses.
the inflated prices dont bother me. Once again they can charge wtvr they want. But forcing people not to open so you can keep your prices high is my issue.

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 12:36:35 PM »
How can they force people not to open up. Its a free market anyone who wants to come and open a store can.
read the thread... thats what everyone is complaining about. KRM was going to open in Brachs - GG got involved all of sudden they aren't opening anymore.

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 12:35:31 PM »
From what I hear it is significantly cheaper at least for meat. Whats wrond with going to 2 stores ?  If you want the convenience of a one stop shop you may have to pay a premium.
Just to clarify I'm not saying I don't hear your frustration- I feel the same way that their prices are inflated. But that doesnt make them evil and deserving of curses.
i have no issue going to 2 stores. if they were both affordable.

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 12:33:37 PM »
If people are willing to pay his prices why shouldn't he charge that much? It doesn't make him evil. If people stop going he will be forced to lower his prices. To me the solution is simple just drive to Brooklyn to get what you need. Its not such a far drive. Go once every 2 weeks and stock up.

We have the same situation in Brooklyn with pomegranate. His prices are ridiculous but I prefer to shop by him and pay extra for some of the conveniences. For example: the food is much fresher than say Moishas, I like the parking, and the layout is nice as well.

No one is forcing me to go there but I find it more convenient and they are doing really well despite the competition having lower prices.
I have no issue with charging whatever you want but dont force people not to open up. Driving to BK is not an answer. What about the families who are already 25min drive to GG (LI ppl) a community this size should be able to have an affordable store.

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 12:30:10 PM »
What about frankels?

from what i hear its not so cheap tho cheaper then GG and it doesnt have alot of items so you would have to go elsewhere for half your order.

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« on: December 09, 2016, 12:27:40 PM »
You dont like it shop elsewhere. When I lived there I didn't shop at gg I shopped at brachs. Apparently people preffer to lay higher prices for whatever gg is offering otherwise brachs would still be around.
Not true Brachs was full. Many reasons why they closed. But wasnt because lack of customers. The issue is ther is no were else to shop because GG wont let anyone else come in. Thats what everyone is complaining about. No one in BK is complaining about Pomegranate because you can just go shop in KRM

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