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General Discussion / Re: Uber
« on: June 29, 2015, 03:42:17 PM »
"Ride to and from City Hall tomorrow between 10:30am 2:30pm and your uberPOOL ride is free"

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Thanks!

You had a ball!

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Award reimbursement rates are well under 1cpm.

Your statement is very general, which gives the wrong impression.
Chase doesn't share the same contract with Chase as Amex does with Delta.

If you know the contract terms of BofA with AS (and I believe you do - otherwise you would've never posted that comment in this thread), you should say 'Award reimbursement rates from BofA to AS are well under 1cpm."

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There's no way they pay 10-15k for an ek ticket.
They didn't say they pay that.
The rep just mentioned that this is the retail price.

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What the hell does that email say, anyway?! Looks like Yvette took a dump on her keyboard, and then hit "send".
It says hell.

Just read it.

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Just a small update from an abridged version of a 50 minute phone call i had with an AS supervisor regarding my audit - so you guys can either cry, laugh, shake your head, or whichever you feel is the right reaction!

(For clarity's sake - account had 370k in it from BofA bonuses, 90k was used to book EK F, and 280k taken out during the audit)

AS rep - "Your account was shut down because you canceled the cc's from BofA, and you purchased a flight using the miles. So your account balance is now currently negative 20k, the only way to open your account is by purchasing 20k miles"

Me - "Who exactly audited my account, was is BofA or AS?

AS rep - "It was AS"

Me - "So because i opened and closed cc's from BofA, AS is shutting down my account. That sounds rather strange to me due to the fact i don't recall seeing in any of the T&C's that by closing my credit card i will loose my miles."

AS rep - "It is because you are churning a lot credit cards, and i'm well aware of how that works, as i follow FlyerTalk myself, especially the last 3 weeks when everyone is talking about AS shut downs, and in our point of view - churning credit cards and not paying the annual fees is fraud."

Me - "So if i reopen my BofA cc's and pay the AF's i'll get my 280k miles back?"

AS rep - "No, that will not help"

Me - "but wasn't the reason i was audited because i didn't pay the AF's, so if i pay them now that would solve the issue, no?"

AS rep - "AS MilagePlan is loyalty program, and the way you are treating the program by opening up an AS account just so you can churn BofA credit cards isn't loyal and we have decided to no longer have you as a customer"

Me - "then why do you partner with BofA and allow them to give out millage bonuses if you're just going to shut down the accounts because of it?"

AS rep - ".... you just took the miles and used them to fly on Emirates which costs us $10k-15k a ticket, and that is something we can't handle"

(I almost fainted when he said that, how dumb can a rep be to say something like that straight out?!)

Me - "you mentioned before that churning cc's is fraud, would you mind elaborating a little what exactly is illegal and fraudulent about churning cc's?"

AS rep - "I'm not a lawyer and I can't answer what's legal and what's not, but from a layman's point of view it looks fraudulent and we have the right to close down accounts, and by signing up for cc's and closing them, it's like making a purchase, getting the miles, using them and then refunding the purchases"

Me - "BofA paid AS for the miles, then what exactly is the issue with churning cc's, as far as AS is concerned the miles were paid already?"

AS rep - "well, they weren't paid for because BofA clawed them back"

Me - "Didn't you say that the audit was from AS and NOT BofA, and now you are changing the story"

AS rep - "it doesn't make a difference who the audit is from, the bottom line is that your account is negative 20k and we are not even going to consider reopening your account until you pay us for that balance due"


After i hang up, i received the following email from AS -

Pretty interesting to note that in BofA's T&C's it only says that the companion pass becomes no longer eligible if "If your Account is closed, changed from an Alaska Airlines Visa Signature Account to an account other than a Visa Signature Account or an Account with no annual fee", but it does not mention a word regarding clawing back the 25k miles.
This looks bad.

Since the T& C doesn't mention anything about the miles, I'd try SCC.

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You were saying?
All I can say is I was either just not as lucky as you are or I was so drunk after a 15 hour F flight on OZ that I simply didn't see what's happening around me (in which case I am more lucky than you).

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Just Shmooze / Re: DansDeals Drinking Game
« on: June 22, 2015, 12:39:29 AM »
This kind of thread pops up every few weeks/months. It's stupid and immature. Well  done.  ::)
Cool down, bud.

There's nothing wrong with people having a conversation or just making a (cute) joke. Whatever OP's intention was.

It's when we start with name calling when a civil discussion becomes
stupid and immature.

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Just Shmooze / Re: Missing in todays world!! - For Fun!
« on: June 11, 2015, 11:51:53 PM »
Shooting trolls online.

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Up In The Air / Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« on: June 11, 2015, 09:33:02 PM »
Who said that I said I was qualified? I was giving my  own opinion, Give your own Opinion if you don't agree!
By giving opinions it may come off to some people as if you're qualified to have an opinion on the topic being discussed.

I just said that I would choose Lh because I enjoyed the Bed

I actually enjoyed driving a Ford Fusion, I still don't dare giving an opinion on the Range Rover.

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Up In The Air / Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« on: June 11, 2015, 07:59:02 PM »
Heard about it?
Well, I've heard about the Lamborghini Veneno Roadster and the Bugatti Veyron.

Does that make me qualified to advise which is the best?

Saw it?, sat on it?
Yes, where? And if yes, I bet you didn't experience the soft product.

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Up In The Air / Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« on: June 11, 2015, 07:35:00 PM »
LH F really liked the bed!
Yo, I'm signing up with the hershelsdeals camp.

How do advise to fly LH over LX when you've never tried LX?

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Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: Next Vacation - Ideas
« on: June 11, 2015, 08:06:30 AM »
Yeah, they do. My question is more on the area. I'm not so big on the hotel at this point. I want somewhere beautiful with easy hikes.
Park Hyatt Beaver Creek.

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Up In The Air / Re: What Award Itinerary Did You Just Book/Hold?
« on: June 11, 2015, 07:15:23 AM »

Was also wondering about interlining from LY-EK.
You can't.

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