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Re: "First" in Antarctica?
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2018, 03:51:43 PM »
Sailed on a Wednesday. With a minyan.

http://crownheights.info/chabad-news/41707/tanya-printed-on-the-frozen-continent/
Sounds like he had an accidental minyan given the crew he found to be Jewish. And nothing about having a torah onboard, catered food, etc.
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Re: "First" in Antarctica?
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2018, 03:52:49 PM »
Upthread there's a video for "first siyum in Antarctica". Considering this is at a minimum the 3rd organized trip to go, that claim is [citation needed].
I never made that claim, but either way, I'm only counting 2 actual organized cruises. Shouldn't be hard to verify if they did a siyum.
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Re: "First" in Antarctica?
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2018, 03:58:30 PM »
The 1997 cruise had 4 landings and a kosher kitchen

https://www.nsf.gov/geo/opp/antarct/treaty/html/mods9798/touror.htm

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Re: "First" in Antarctica?
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2018, 04:05:27 PM »
The 1997 cruise had 4 landings and a kosher kitchen

https://www.nsf.gov/geo/opp/antarct/treaty/html/mods9798/touror.htm
That's a crazy big ship.
Couldn't happen anymore as operators are not allowed to have more than 100 people on land now.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Antarctica

"Occasionally, very large cruise vessels have visited Antarctica carrying over 950 people. These vessels are usually cruise based and offer no landings. However, in 2009, new regulations were enforced that stopped large vessels from operating in Antarctic waters due to their heavier fuel oils. Ships normally can only land 100 people at a time and those that carry over 500 people are not allowed to land anyone."

That's another reason today's cruises are so expensive.
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Re: "First" in Antarctica?
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2018, 04:11:15 PM »
I believe so
My father did not go on that trip, but went the next year (1998). The ship was the same, the Marco Polo, but I'm not sure if the tour operator was the same. There was one other Rabbi on board, not Rabbi Tokayer. He was also a Johannesburg Rabbi who gave shiurim.
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Re: "First" in Antarctica?
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2018, 04:14:34 PM »
My father did not go on that trip, but went the next year (1998). The ship was the same, the Marco Polo, but I'm not sure if the tour operator was the same. There was one other Rabbi on board, not Rabbi Tokayer. He was also a Johannesburg Rabbi who gave shiurim.
So this is the 3rd known kosher Antarctica trip?

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Re: "First" in Antarctica?
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2018, 04:17:51 PM »
So this is the 3rd known kosher Antarctica trip?
Even so, it doesn't detract at all from this trip.
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Re: "First" in Antarctica?
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2018, 04:21:48 PM »
מה שהיה הוא שיהיה ומה שנעשה הוא שיעשה ואין כל חדש תחת השמש י יש דבר שיאמר ראה זה חדש הוא כבר היה לעלמים אשר היה מלפננו יא אין זכרון לראשנים וגם לאחרנים שיהיו לא יהיה להם זכרון עם שיהיו לאחרנה

We tend to forget the passuk in koheles. In another generation someone else will organize a “first trip” to Antarctica and someone will dredge up this thread. :)

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Re: "First" in Antarctica?
« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2018, 04:25:27 PM »
Upthread there's a video for "first siyum in Antarctica". Considering this is at a minimum the 3rd organized trip to go, that claim is [citation needed].
Well it hasn't been on instagram before so obviously it never happened

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Re: "First" in Antarctica?
« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2018, 04:38:48 PM »
Why are we all raining on @Dan and @Something Fishy's parade?!?!?  Their trip is a major milestone, even if it's not necessarily the "first".  They are doing a great job and have attracted quite the audience.  Props to them for making it all work!!

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Re: "First" in Antarctica?
« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2018, 04:53:29 PM »
Why are we all raining on @Dan and @Something Fishy's parade?!?!?  Their trip is a major milestone, even if it's not necessarily the "first".  They are doing a great job and have attracted quite the audience.  Props to them for making it all work!!

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Re: "First" in Antarctica?
« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2018, 05:26:15 PM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: "First" in Antarctica?
« Reply #43 on: December 18, 2018, 05:42:50 PM »
That's a crazy big ship.
Couldn't happen anymore as operators are not allowed to have more than 100 people on land now.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Antarctica

"Occasionally, very large cruise vessels have visited Antarctica carrying over 950 people. These vessels are usually cruise based and offer no landings. However, in 2009, new regulations were enforced that stopped large vessels from operating in Antarctic waters due to their heavier fuel oils. Ships normally can only land 100 people at a time and those that carry over 500 people are not allowed to land anyone."

That's another reason today's cruises are so expensive.
Just curious, who makes these regulations? The Antarctica government?  ;D

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Re: "First" in Antarctica?
« Reply #44 on: December 18, 2018, 07:18:36 PM »
I now have a renewed skepticism of the "first x in Antarctica" or the "once in a lifetime" comments.
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