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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #140 on: January 07, 2019, 12:21:04 AM »
The main thing is to ensure that there's Bartenura for kiddush as I only drink ליובאוויטשער סחיטה.

So only Tropicana orange juice, never Lakewood or New Square?
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #141 on: January 07, 2019, 12:24:51 AM »
Quite a few relevant issues raised here:

https://t.me/YiddisherHumor/102
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #142 on: January 07, 2019, 12:27:22 AM »
So only Tropicana orange juice, never Lakewood or New Square?
Never!
As those don't make it to CLE :)
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #143 on: January 07, 2019, 12:32:28 AM »
Never!
As those don't make it to CLE :)

I guess the fact that I don't drink any juices or flavored drinks (bar an occasional Heineken) fits well with Parve cholent.
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #144 on: January 07, 2019, 12:33:38 AM »
You're right. It's terrible how people can act like this. It's mamesh a chilul Lubavitch.
ALOL
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #145 on: January 07, 2019, 12:38:59 AM »
Iíve seen the term chilul lubavitch/ חילול שם חבד and the term חילול שם הרבי used in conjunction with chilul Hashem, not as a substitute. I donít really see the problem...

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #146 on: January 07, 2019, 12:39:12 AM »
Waiting for one of the 7 soferim / stores to own up, apologize, offer recall / testing, advise steps taken to ensure this won't repeat.

In absence of the above, I wouldn't buy anything from any of the merchants.

Another question might be, is your tzitzis and talis kosher ?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #147 on: January 07, 2019, 01:11:08 AM »
I bought my talis, tzitzis and gartel from these merchants. Is my gartel kosher?

When can I sign on for the class action suit? Will anyone who bought anything from Judaica World qualify?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #148 on: January 07, 2019, 01:13:45 AM »
I bought my talis, tzitzis and gartel from these merchants. Is my gartel kosher?

When can I sign on for the class action suit? Will anyone who bought anything from Judaica World qualify?

Back in the day there was some sort of silk "custom" gartel controversy/scam.
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #149 on: January 07, 2019, 08:29:00 AM »
Do you know that most restaurants and even more factories rely on minority opinions to ensure your food is certified kosher?
I still stand by what I said before that at this point this is an issue which boils down to consumer awareness, and it's not limited to סת''ם.

This is in response to Yehuda57 from 11:56pm. For some reason it's not allowing me to quote.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #150 on: January 07, 2019, 09:24:33 AM »
Back in the day there was some sort of silk "custom" gartel controversy/scam.
I donít think I ever paid more than $15 for a gartel, if that  (except for the one I bought for someone else at his request).
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #151 on: January 07, 2019, 09:30:22 AM »
I donít think I ever paid more than $15 for a gartel, if that  (except for the one I bought for someone else at his request).
Let me guess, you actually pay 75c per gartel. You buy a 1.50 gartel and cut into 2.
 
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #152 on: January 07, 2019, 09:31:21 AM »
How can I relax on Hashems Honor ?

I'm sure you get just as worked up when people use נפלה עטרת ראשנו about a person who passes away?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #153 on: January 07, 2019, 09:47:13 AM »
I'm sure you get just as worked up when people use נפלה עטרת ראשנו about a person who passes away?

How about צהלי ורוני יושבת
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #154 on: January 07, 2019, 10:13:41 AM »
מסכת בבא בתרא
דף עה עמוד ב
אמר רבה אמר רבי יוחנן, עתידין צדיקים שנקראין על שמו של הקב"ה, שנאמר (ישעי' מג, ז) "כל הנקרא בשמי ולכבודי בראתיו יצרתיו אף עשיתיו". ואמר רבי שמואל בר נחמני א"ר יונתן, ג' נקראו על שמו של הקב"ה, ואלו הן: צדיקים ומשיח וירושלים, צדיקים - הא דאמרן, משיח Ė דכתיב (ירמי' כג, ו) "וזה שמו אשר יקראו ה' צדקנו", ירושלים דכתיב (יחזקאל מח, לה) "סביב שמונה עשר אלף ושם העיר מיום ה' שמה" - אל תקרי שמה אלא שמה. אמר רבי אלעזר, עתידין צדיקים שאומרים לפניהן קדוש כדרך שאומרים לפני הקב"ה, שנאמר (ישעי' ד, ג) "והיה הנשאר בציון והנותר בירושלים קדוש יאמר לו.

:הירושלמי בכורים ג, ג
 "'וה' בהיכל קדשו' (חבקוק ב, כ), הא ר' יצחק בר לעזר בכנישתא מדרתא דקיסרין'

מגלה יח.: "אמר רבי אחא אמר רבי אלעזר, מנין שקראו הקב"ה ליעקב א-ל, שנאמר (בראשית לג, כ) 'ויקרא לו א-ל אלקי ישראל

 רבינו בחיי עה"פ בפר' כי תשא (לג, ז) "והיה כל מבקש ה' יצא אל אהל מועד אשר מחוץ למחנה". וז"ל: "והיה הכתוב ראוי לומר 'כל מבקש משה', אלא מכאן שנקרא משה בשם המיוחד, וכן מצינו שנקרא יעקב בשם א-ל שנאמר 'ויקרא לו א-ל אלקי ישראל'... וכן מצינו ב'שם' הצדיק שנקרא בשם המיוחד, הוא שכתוב (בראשית כה, כב) 'ותלך לדרוש את ה'', וכתיב (שם, כג) 'ויאמר ה' לה', ודרשו חז"ל (ב"ר כ, ו) על ידי שם, כי השם המיוחד לא דיבר עמה כלל וכו', וטעם הדבר בכולם, כי הדבק בדבר נקרא על שם הדבר שידבק בו, ונקרא השליח בשם השולח

"המו"ל שו"ת הרב הגדול מהר"ד ברוך אנגיל, כתב בדברי ההקדמה שלו על הגאון המחבר: "רבינו הגדול והקדוש ברוך הוא


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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #155 on: January 07, 2019, 10:14:11 AM »
Reminds me of the kid who was overheard saying that he is careful never to do any aveiros. When asked why not he replied that he is terrified that if he does an aveira Hashem might tell the Rebbe!

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #156 on: January 07, 2019, 10:15:40 AM »
Let me guess, you actually pay 75c per gartel. You buy a 1.50 gartel and cut into 2.
1. I rarely buy a gartel, as I don't lose them often.

2. I don't buy extra slim fit suits, so half a gartel won't do the job.
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #157 on: January 07, 2019, 10:19:43 AM »
When I buy a mezuzah, I'm no expert, I'm relying on the sofer. If he's relying on opinions which are not widely accepted, he should explain that.
The sofrim have not been explaining that at all. Not even close. It's not necessarily "mezuzah Fraud" but it's dishonesty.

Which begs the question - do you buy your mezuzos from a Sofer, or do you buy them from a judaica store salesman?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #158 on: January 07, 2019, 10:23:31 AM »
Which begs the question - do you buy your mezuzos from a Sofer, or do you buy them from a judaica store salesman?
I bought from a sofer that is highly recommended and regarded.
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #159 on: January 07, 2019, 10:26:58 AM »