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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #180 on: January 07, 2019, 02:04:00 PM »
You can feel better, you got the order wrong. It's actually "Tatty, Mommy, and Hashem"
(Or "Abba, Ima, and Hashem" in the next repetition)

What if they have a Abba and a tatty?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #181 on: January 07, 2019, 02:05:05 PM »
What if they have a Abba and a tatty?
Hashem might not be so proud of them (the Abba and Tatty that is).

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #182 on: January 07, 2019, 02:05:39 PM »
Is that song as old as the letter from the CH Beis Din regarding STaM standards?
Didn't see a date on the letter, but MMM1 is from 1984 acc to Amazon.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #183 on: January 07, 2019, 02:07:26 PM »
Didn't see a date on the letter, but MMM1 is from 1984 acc to Amazon.
Date is on the last line before signatures. 12/26/1986.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #184 on: January 07, 2019, 02:11:42 PM »
It's hard to describe a conversation that happened 8 years ago. I wasn't insisting while he was trying to valiantly to stop me. Again, a simple explanation like "Would you eat chalav stam knowing there are opinions that say it is halachically acceptable, but according to Lubavitch custom, it is not?" Conversation would have been over.

the difference is lubavitch considers that milk trief vs these parshios of stam can be called 100% kosher according to some opinions. many eiruvim around the world are not according to the baal hatanya opinion and yet lubavitchers don't curse out others who rely on the other opinions that allow certain eiruvim. this is the case here in your own home try to be more mehudar. however, to go and try to get someone to put up mezuzahs who does not usually follow most of the shulchan aruch to put up a $120 mezuzah on each door is crazy

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #185 on: January 07, 2019, 02:16:43 PM »
When I asked sofrim about A"R ksav mezuzos one told me that his range from $100 to $500 and to buy the best you can afford.
Shkoyach.

This is an issue whenever someone buys something about which they are not educated, from cars (especially used), to computers, to wine.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #186 on: January 07, 2019, 02:18:31 PM »
Didn't see a date on the letter, but MMM1 is from 1984 acc to Amazon.

MMM1?

Amazon?

I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #187 on: January 07, 2019, 02:20:06 PM »
the difference is lubavitch considers that milk trief vs these parshios of stam can be called 100% kosher according to some opinions. many eiruvim around the world are not according to the baal hatanya opinion and yet lubavitchers don't curse out others who rely on the other opinions that allow certain eiruvim. this is the case here in your own home try to be more mehudar. however, to go and try to get someone to put up mezuzahs who does not usually follow most of the shulchan aruch to put up a $120 mezuzah on each door is crazy

I appreciate that you created an account to respond only to my comments, it's great for my ego. Anyhow, you're making my point. Chalav stam is treif for us. Even though there are plenty of people who are matir it, it is treif for us. Same thing with these mezuzos. They are relying on obscure/not-relied-upon opinions to say it is kosher l'chatchila. But for a Lubavitcher, it is not acceptable. If he would have said, "would you use a non Alter Rebbe eruv to carry?" I would have had my answer.
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #188 on: January 07, 2019, 02:20:19 PM »
Hashem might not be so proud of them (the Abba and Tatty that is).

Dan L'kav Zchus - Abba is his father and tatty is his step father (or vice versa).

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #189 on: January 07, 2019, 02:23:56 PM »
Dan L'kav Zchus - Abba is his father and tatty is his step father (or vice versa).
Obviously. You canít biologically have both an Abba and a Tatty. The closest you can get is if one of the parents identifies as an Abba and one as a Tatty. Parent dysphoria.
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #190 on: January 07, 2019, 02:25:45 PM »
many eiruvim around the world are not according to the baal hatanya opinion and yet lubavitchers don't curse out others who rely on the other opinions that allow certain eiruvim.
Way to bring back up this topic  ::)

Not entirely true. Although to be fair, their reason being:
this is the case here in your own home try to be more mehudar.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #191 on: January 07, 2019, 02:30:39 PM »
Date is on the last line before signatures. 12/26/1986.
My bad. I stopped at the end of the list and was looking at the top for the date.
MMM1?

Amazon?
Marvelous Middos Machine Episode 1, the album the song being quoted is from. Amazon lists the original release date as March 5, 1984 on the product page.

Not sure I get why you asked which is older, but it seemed like you though the letter was older.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #192 on: January 07, 2019, 02:33:23 PM »
My bad. I stopped at the end of the list and was looking at the top for the date.Marvelous Middos Machine Episode 1, the album the song being quoted is from. Amazon lists the original release date as March 5, 1984 on the product page.

Not sure I get why you asked which is older, but it seemed like you though the letter was older.
Which explains

Thank you!
The amaratzus here is astounding.

Some people 'round here are just too young to posses this important knowledge.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #193 on: January 07, 2019, 02:38:22 PM »
Which explains

Some people 'round here are just too young to posses this important knowledge.
Too young? My 7 and 5 year olds know most of the words to that one, and much of the rest of the album and series.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #194 on: January 07, 2019, 02:44:44 PM »
Too young? My 7 and 5 year olds know most of the words to that one, and much of the rest of the album and series.

Marvelous Middos Machine is indeed a wonderful classic for all ages.

However, I just noticed that the aforementioned letter from the Beis Din of Crown Heights was issued a very short while before Hey Teves 5747, its impact might have been drowned in the Mashke.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #195 on: January 07, 2019, 03:09:42 PM »
Marvelous Middos Machine is indeed a wonderful classic for all ages.

However, I just noticed that the aforementioned letter from the Beis Din of Crown Heights was issued a very short while before Hey Teves 5747, its impact might have been drowned in the Mashke.

Can we stay on topic??????? whats the latest? is wolff responding to VRL? who is his to'ein?!


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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #196 on: January 07, 2019, 03:11:47 PM »
Can we stay on topic??????? whats the latest? is wolff responding to VRL? who is his to'ein?!

This is DDF! I was referred to this thread by a link posted by @Dan  in the Popcorn master thread. HOW DARE YOU?
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #197 on: January 07, 2019, 03:11:54 PM »
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Bigger problem
A bigger problem (only because it isnít as known) is Keter size 20 tzitzis. While most people assume they are 100% kosher but they are not (according to the alter rebbeh) because they are not 1 amoh from the bottom of the neckline


Shaygetz all of you!! go burn your keter tzitis

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #198 on: January 07, 2019, 03:14:15 PM »
This is DDF! I was referred to this thread by a link posted by @Dan  in the Popcorn master thread. HOW DARE YOU?

Reminds me of how off topic they get in the gemara.

Where is Rav Heller on this?

I know my brother is very close to Machom Stam and they advertise in his publications. I think the live mezuzah walkthrough is my brother though it's my cousin in the video lol

Basically, when it comes to stam I let my brother / father do what they want, I just hand over my tefillen and mezuzos when they want to check and my father is always on my case about replacing retzuos and the kesher and ugh..

I am curious if they should invent weatherproof mezuzah cases?
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #199 on: January 07, 2019, 03:40:17 PM »
Reminds me of how off topic they get in the gemara.

Where is Rav Heller on this?

I know my brother is very close to Machom Stam and they advertise in his publications. I think the live mezuzah walkthrough is my brother though it's my cousin in the video lol

Basically, when it comes to stam I let my brother / father do what they want, I just hand over my tefillen and mezuzos when they want to check and my father is always on my case about replacing retzuos and the kesher and ugh..

I am curious if they should invent weatherproof mezuzah cases?
Arenít most mezuzah cases weatherproof?
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