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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #60 on: January 04, 2019, 03:05:29 PM »
He mentioned in the comment section of the YouTube video that he spent over $7k on this.
The 3-4k is just on cost of Mezuzas. The rest is cost of having them checked (once on camera and he says again after) and his video crew.

Wonder who hes planning on selling them to :P
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #62 on: January 04, 2019, 03:16:36 PM »
I don't think that is true (at least for some of the stores).
how can you lchtchila sell a mezuza thats only kosher bdieved?
v'ikar, do you know any store that sells such a thing?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #63 on: January 04, 2019, 03:23:41 PM »
v'ikar, do you know any store that sells such a thing?

Yes, at least 7 of them... ;-)

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #65 on: January 04, 2019, 03:36:11 PM »
Shmais is still around?

I'm as surprised as you...

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #66 on: January 04, 2019, 03:43:02 PM »
This whole story is interesting. I definitely think that there is more backstory here. Why would someone go out and spend 3-4000 of their own money to do this? If I give him (R'Wolf) the benefit of the doubt that he truly is doing this l'shaim shamayim, why go this route? Did he try to go to Bes Din before making the video?

I hope that the Din Torah, or at least him appearing before bes din will shed some light on the matter

while I appreciate R' Sebags response, and the fact that all of the sofrim in the video have taken him to a din torah, one quote stuck out more than the rest:

I hope that this 'everything to protect ourselves' turns out to be that R'Wolf is bending the truth,  and not that the sofrim are willing to sell mezuzos that are pasul.
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We all the sofrim are unified (a miracle) and will do everything to protect ourselves and families.
He says we're all unified, but notably it seems like the one that got 10/10 kosher is not on the hazmana.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #67 on: January 04, 2019, 03:50:13 PM »
He says we're all unified, but notably it seems like the one that got 10/10 kosher is not on the hazmana.

That guy suffered no damages. Why would he bring him to a Din Torah?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #68 on: January 04, 2019, 04:06:21 PM »
That guy suffered no damages. Why would he bring him to a Din Torah?
Right. I guess I'm not saying he should bring him to a din torah, but then where do we see they're all unified? Maybe he means just the seven of them?
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Not saying he needs to go point by point per se, but he doesn't address all of the alleged psulim - even just in his mezuzahs alone. And if you go through the nearly 50 labeled pasul, there are many more psulim that are alleged.
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The bitterness and anger of this individual and lack of בנחת נשמעים…. is disturbing.

The purpose here was not to educate customers and to have sofrim improve.
I think the guy clearly went about this the wrong way (unless there's more to the story), but I don't see the bitterness/anger, nor that the purpose was anything other than to educate customers.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #69 on: January 04, 2019, 04:08:17 PM »
Shmais is still around?
That may be the most surprising thing about this thread.
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #70 on: January 04, 2019, 04:24:17 PM »
@Sofer770, care to weigh in?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #71 on: January 06, 2019, 12:40:45 PM »
Nu what's the latest ?!?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #72 on: January 06, 2019, 12:59:30 PM »

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #73 on: January 06, 2019, 01:08:40 PM »
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290 comments and counting...
Interesting. In the comments, multiple people say that Raskin (10/10 Kosher mezuzos in the video) is Wolf’s cousin..  interesting.

Where did the 7K come from again?
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #74 on: January 06, 2019, 01:10:02 PM »
Interesting. In the comments, multiple people say that Raskin (10/10 Kosher mezuzos in the video) is Wolf’s cousin..  interesting.

Where did the 7K come from again?
That's because half of lubavitch is related to each other. Imo it makes nothing changes because of that.