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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #60 on: January 04, 2019, 03:05:29 PM »
He mentioned in the comment section of the YouTube video that he spent over $7k on this.
The 3-4k is just on cost of Mezuzas. The rest is cost of having them checked (once on camera and he says again after) and his video crew.

Wonder who hes planning on selling them to :P
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #62 on: January 04, 2019, 03:16:36 PM »
I don't think that is true (at least for some of the stores).
how can you lchtchila sell a mezuza thats only kosher bdieved?
v'ikar, do you know any store that sells such a thing?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #63 on: January 04, 2019, 03:23:41 PM »
v'ikar, do you know any store that sells such a thing?

Yes, at least 7 of them... ;-)

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #65 on: January 04, 2019, 03:36:11 PM »
Shmais is still around?

I'm as surprised as you...

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #66 on: January 04, 2019, 03:43:02 PM »
This whole story is interesting. I definitely think that there is more backstory here. Why would someone go out and spend 3-4000 of their own money to do this? If I give him (R'Wolf) the benefit of the doubt that he truly is doing this l'shaim shamayim, why go this route? Did he try to go to Bes Din before making the video?

I hope that the Din Torah, or at least him appearing before bes din will shed some light on the matter

while I appreciate R' Sebags response, and the fact that all of the sofrim in the video have taken him to a din torah, one quote stuck out more than the rest:

I hope that this 'everything to protect ourselves' turns out to be that R'Wolf is bending the truth,  and not that the sofrim are willing to sell mezuzos that are pasul.
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We all the sofrim are unified (a miracle) and will do everything to protect ourselves and families.
He says we're all unified, but notably it seems like the one that got 10/10 kosher is not on the hazmana.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #67 on: January 04, 2019, 03:50:13 PM »
He says we're all unified, but notably it seems like the one that got 10/10 kosher is not on the hazmana.

That guy suffered no damages. Why would he bring him to a Din Torah?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #68 on: January 04, 2019, 04:06:21 PM »
That guy suffered no damages. Why would he bring him to a Din Torah?
Right. I guess I'm not saying he should bring him to a din torah, but then where do we see they're all unified? Maybe he means just the seven of them?
Response from Oraita, Rabbi Gad Sebag:
Not saying he needs to go point by point per se, but he doesn't address all of the alleged psulim - even just in his mezuzahs alone. And if you go through the nearly 50 labeled pasul, there are many more psulim that are alleged.
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The bitterness and anger of this individual and lack of בנחת נשמעים…. is disturbing.

The purpose here was not to educate customers and to have sofrim improve.
I think the guy clearly went about this the wrong way (unless there's more to the story), but I don't see the bitterness/anger, nor that the purpose was anything other than to educate customers.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #69 on: January 04, 2019, 04:08:17 PM »
Shmais is still around?
That may be the most surprising thing about this thread.
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #70 on: January 04, 2019, 04:24:17 PM »
@Sofer770, care to weigh in?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #71 on: January 06, 2019, 12:40:45 PM »
Nu what's the latest ?!?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #72 on: January 06, 2019, 12:59:30 PM »
Shloffen Shloft Zich

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #73 on: January 06, 2019, 01:08:40 PM »
https://www.collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=53858&alias=lone-crusader-riles-sofer-stams

290 comments and counting...
Interesting. In the comments, multiple people say that Raskin (10/10 Kosher mezuzos in the video) is Wolf’s cousin..  interesting.

Where did the 7K come from again?
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #74 on: January 06, 2019, 01:10:02 PM »
Interesting. In the comments, multiple people say that Raskin (10/10 Kosher mezuzos in the video) is Wolf’s cousin..  interesting.

Where did the 7K come from again?
That's because half of lubavitch is related to each other. Imo it makes nothing changes because of that.
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #75 on: January 06, 2019, 01:40:44 PM »
Apparently 4th cousins but I may be wrong.

The Raskin family is one of the biggest families in Lubavitch. I think they're up to 6th and 7th (fully traceable) generation now.
2 people will have the name Raskin but they're only 5th cousins so they're easily identifiable but not necessarily close.
Just to give you an idea, my brother's kids and my sister's kids are 5th cousins through their Raskin sides.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #76 on: January 06, 2019, 02:00:30 PM »
I recently bought many mezuzos for myself. There is a reason I spent over $1,000. This was a well known issue and I'm really glad that he named names and took no prisoners. They are מחללי שם שמים of the highest level. I didn't think the situation was THIS bad and am shocked that there were supposed frum Jews selling mezuzos that were all pasul and likely intentionally. It's so easy to see a difference when looking.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #77 on: January 06, 2019, 02:04:46 PM »
I recently bought many mezuzos for myself. There is a reason I spent over $1,000. This was a well known issue and I'm really glad that he named names and took no prisoners. They are מחללי שם שמים of the highest level. I didn't think the situation was THIS bad and am shocked that there were supposed frum Jews selling mezuzos that were all pasul and likely intentionally. It's so easy to see a difference when looking.
There definitely is an issue, the extent of which, and whether the vendor it consumer have the responsibility to educate themselves/the other, seems to be up for debate.
You seem to be buying right into his version of the story.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #78 on: January 06, 2019, 02:31:36 PM »
There definitely is an issue, the extent of which, and whether the vendor it consumer have the responsibility to educate themselves/the other, seems to be up for debate.
You seem to be buying right into his version of the story.

By a restaurant it's also the customer's responsibility that the meat is kosher? Of course, many people knew about the issue and avoided them entirely, as is the case with some restaurants. But to knowingly sell pasul mezuzos to the unwitting?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #79 on: January 06, 2019, 02:41:45 PM »
By a restaurant it's also the customer's responsibility that the meat is kosher? Of course, many people knew about the issue and avoided them entirely, as is the case with some restaurants. But to knowingly sell pasul mezuzos to the unwitting?
YES! That's exactly my point!

Commercialised Judaism and relying on agencies and organisations, "they say this is a good Hechsher" and "they say this Hechsher is no good" is a concept which started about 100 years ago as people were leaving the Shtetel life where they knew they're Rabbi and relied on what he said was good/kosher/Tahor/allowed.
About 100 years later it's become a business and enterprise and this is a huge WAKE UP CALL that people need to take responsibility for their Judaism.
Don't eat in a restaurant unless YOU make sure it's Kosher by relying on people YOU know and YOU trust. Same for Tefilin, Mezuzos and everything else!
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