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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #75 on: January 06, 2019, 01:40:44 PM »
Apparently 4th cousins but I may be wrong.

The Raskin family is one of the biggest families in Lubavitch. I think they're up to 6th and 7th (fully traceable) generation now.
2 people will have the name Raskin but they're only 5th cousins so they're easily identifiable but not necessarily close.
Just to give you an idea, my brother's kids and my sister's kids are 5th cousins through their Raskin sides.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #76 on: January 06, 2019, 02:00:30 PM »
I recently bought many mezuzos for myself. There is a reason I spent over $1,000. This was a well known issue and I'm really glad that he named names and took no prisoners. They are מחללי שם שמים of the highest level. I didn't think the situation was THIS bad and am shocked that there were supposed frum Jews selling mezuzos that were all pasul and likely intentionally. It's so easy to see a difference when looking.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #77 on: January 06, 2019, 02:04:46 PM »
I recently bought many mezuzos for myself. There is a reason I spent over $1,000. This was a well known issue and I'm really glad that he named names and took no prisoners. They are מחללי שם שמים of the highest level. I didn't think the situation was THIS bad and am shocked that there were supposed frum Jews selling mezuzos that were all pasul and likely intentionally. It's so easy to see a difference when looking.
There definitely is an issue, the extent of which, and whether the vendor it consumer have the responsibility to educate themselves/the other, seems to be up for debate.
You seem to be buying right into his version of the story.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #78 on: January 06, 2019, 02:31:36 PM »
There definitely is an issue, the extent of which, and whether the vendor it consumer have the responsibility to educate themselves/the other, seems to be up for debate.
You seem to be buying right into his version of the story.

By a restaurant it's also the customer's responsibility that the meat is kosher? Of course, many people knew about the issue and avoided them entirely, as is the case with some restaurants. But to knowingly sell pasul mezuzos to the unwitting?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #79 on: January 06, 2019, 02:41:45 PM »
By a restaurant it's also the customer's responsibility that the meat is kosher? Of course, many people knew about the issue and avoided them entirely, as is the case with some restaurants. But to knowingly sell pasul mezuzos to the unwitting?
YES! That's exactly my point!

Commercialised Judaism and relying on agencies and organisations, "they say this is a good Hechsher" and "they say this Hechsher is no good" is a concept which started about 100 years ago as people were leaving the Shtetel life where they knew they're Rabbi and relied on what he said was good/kosher/Tahor/allowed.
About 100 years later it's become a business and enterprise and this is a huge WAKE UP CALL that people need to take responsibility for their Judaism.
Don't eat in a restaurant unless YOU make sure it's Kosher by relying on people YOU know and YOU trust. Same for Tefilin, Mezuzos and everything else!
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #80 on: January 06, 2019, 02:52:35 PM »
It's why I no longer buy an esrog, such a dishonest business, same for kapores chicken.

My tefillen were stolen in SF, my father paid 2k(!!!) For gasos from machon stam just Rashi..

I thought that was a lot,but I see why.


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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #81 on: January 06, 2019, 02:54:30 PM »
YES! That's exactly my point!

Commercialised Judaism and relying on agencies and organisations, "they say this is a good Hechsher" and "they say this Hechsher is no good" is a concept which started about 100 years ago as people were leaving the Shtetel life where they knew they're Rabbi and relied on what he said was good/kosher/Tahor/allowed.
About 100 years later it's become a business and enterprise and this is a huge WAKE UP CALL that people need to take responsibility for their Judaism.
Don't eat in a restaurant unless YOU make sure it's Kosher by relying on people YOU know and YOU trust. Same for Tefilin, Mezuzos and everything else!
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100% true, but this doesn't make these vendors any less culpable.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #82 on: January 06, 2019, 02:56:31 PM »
Crazy stuff. Probably just the tip of the iceberg.

Bottom line though, do I need to have my 1 year old ~$200 A"R Ksav mezuzos checked?
Or is this only for the "mivtzoim" mezuzos?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #83 on: January 06, 2019, 02:59:12 PM »
only for the "mivtzoim" mezuzos
This, supposedly.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #84 on: January 06, 2019, 03:01:22 PM »
Crazy stuff. Probably just the tip of the iceberg.

Bottom line though, do I need to have my 1 year old ~$200 A"R Ksav mezuzos checked?
Or is this only for the "mivtzoim" mezuzos?
The whole issue is Mivzoim mezuzahas. That the vendors receive them from outside sources and say they're kosher bdieved. Regular mezuzas purchased l shouldn't have any issues.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #85 on: January 06, 2019, 03:09:12 PM »
Crazy stuff. Probably just the tip of the iceberg.

Bottom line though, do I need to have my 1 year old ~$200 A"R Ksav mezuzos checked?
Or is this only for the "mivtzoim" mezuzos?

Should likely be mehudar for that price.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #86 on: January 06, 2019, 03:12:37 PM »
I recently bought many mezuzos for myself. There is a reason I spent over $1,000.
$1000 doesn't have any significance if you don't specify whether you bought 10, or 20  ;)

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #87 on: January 06, 2019, 03:14:03 PM »
$1000 doesn't have any significance if you don't specify whether you bought 10, or 20  ;)

I think they were around $115 a mezuzah.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #88 on: January 06, 2019, 03:29:43 PM »
I just brought a bunch of mezuzahs I got pictures of the kissav first. I think people should ask for that, even to the untrained eye it should be pretty obvious what kind of Kisav it is.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #89 on: January 06, 2019, 03:29:58 PM »
Crazy stuff. Probably just the tip of the iceberg.

Bottom line though, do I need to have my 1 year old ~$200 A"R Ksav mezuzos checked?
Or is this only for the "mivtzoim" mezuzos?
didnít you buy them from Raskin?