Mezuzah Fraud

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Can you not fathom that their יצר הרע is different then yours?

In "all for the boss" ruchama shain tells how her father one Shabbat saw the new talmud Torah teacher get an Aliyah and not look in Torah during kriah, he followed him out after to see him buy cigarettes and smoke on Shabbat

I don't hang up a mezuza because I follow the law blindly. I hang up a mezuza because God says so and I want to do God's commandment and be close to him..yes there are times where just kosher is good enough for me.

But how can you buy a mezuza etc which is supposed to be written by a yirei shamayim and the guy talks where shulchan aruch forbids.

Would you eat at a restaurant if the mashgiach goes to strip clubs (I know a few of these as does @ExGingi  I bet )

[MeirS]

In "all for the boss" ruchama shain tells how her father one Shabbat saw the new talmud Torah teacher get an Aliyah and not look in Torah during kriah, he followed him out after to see him buy cigarettes and smoke on Shabbat

I don't hang up a mezuza because I follow the law blindly. I hang up a mezuza because God says so and I want to do God's commandment and be close to him..yes there are times where just kosher is good enough for me.

But how can you buy a mezuza etc which is supposed to be written by a yirei shamayim and the guy talks where shulchan aruch forbids.

Would you eat at a restaurant if the mashgiach goes to strip clubs (I know a few of these as does @ExGingi  I bet )

There was a Mashpia in Tomchei Temimim of old, his work in Yeshiva was his side job. Footing the day the was involved in business. During one particular Farbrengen he was directions his words to one particular student encouraging him to improve in a certain area.
After a short while, the Bochur couldn't handle it anymore and he called out "who are you to tell me where and what to improve! I myself saw you shaking hands with a woman!"
The Mashpia turns to him and tells him, "Listen here, in life, you'll meet a lot of people, each have מעלות and חסרונות, you can choose how to see things, either you can see all the good that people have which you can learn from and you'll end up in a good place, or you can see all the negative that people have which you can learn from and you'll end up in..."

[koplonko]

in a certain city in europe there is an orthodox shul run by a rabbi who previously practiced as a reform rabbi in america.
unfortunately, he does conversions and weddings in his reform style.
when confronted; he replied: if we (orthodox) wont do it for them, they'll go to reform.
so he does reform work for them.

if we dont sell pasul mezuzas, they'll buy paper ones.

[Mendyweiss]

Look I get the opposing logic of kosher bedieved for cheap mezuzot where someone may otherwise not have a mezuzah.

This trend seems to be the cause of upwards economic mobility. No reason a quality sofer working l'shem shamayim should make less.

Machon Stam $40 entry level mezuzot passed muster, it just means the rest of the players need to get their act together.

My father wholly supports Rabbi Wolf and as much as my father is a kanoi and oh boy is my father machmir, he generally would find such a video expose to be grub and lashon Hara.

In this case my father while not lauding the style and method, agrees it was necessary.

Also from what I'm hearing, Rav Heller advises machon Stam and so can't really comment on this.

But if you read machon Stam site
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Nice glad your father is pro this, perhaps he should also go a make a video about the disgusting things rabbi raskin says about the other sofrim. Maybe then you will see the truth how some sofrim all they care about is making their own name by putting down everyone else.

[Mendyweiss]

I appreciate that you created an account to respond only to my comments, it's great for my ego. Anyhow, you're making my point. Chalav stam is treif for us. Even though there are plenty of people who are matir it, it is treif for us. Same thing with these mezuzos. They are relying on obscure/not-relied-upon opinions to say it is kosher l'chatchila. But for a Lubavitcher, it is not acceptable. If he would have said, "would you use a non Alter Rebbe eruv to carry?" I would have had my answer.

Glad you are happy that I made the account took time to figure out how to use this forum

[justaregularguy]

Glad you are happy that I made the account took time to figure out how to use this forum

are you really  @ChaimMoskowitz  ??😳😳

[Yehuda57]

if we dont sell pasul mezuzas, they'll buy paper ones.

Brilliant. The whole "mivtzoim" excuse is a red herring anyway. Sure, they may be a handful of people who wouldn't buy a kosher mezuzah  if they had to spend more than $30 on a mezuzah. By all means, have a few on hand for that eventuality. But thousands upon thousands of these mezuzos have been sold to people in our community who would have spent more had they been better informed.

How many people buy Kfar Chabad esrogim vs yanover? That's even more Halachically acceptable and more of a matter of "hiddur" than these mezuzos.

Nice glad your father is pro this, perhaps he should also go a make a video about the disgusting things rabbi raskin says about the other sofrim. Maybe then you will see the truth how some sofrim all they care about is making their own name by putting down everyone else.

What Wolf did was terrible, so you're going to copy him?

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Nice glad your father is pro this, perhaps he should also go a make a video about the disgusting things rabbi raskin says about the other sofrim. Maybe then you will see the truth how some sofrim all they care about is making their own name by putting down everyone else.

Machon Stam didn't / doesn't need any pr and has nothing to do with Wolff's video.

Maybe the other sofrim need to own up rather than run to a din Torah?

I don't have a horse in this race and don't give a hoot, but this is in general is as the native Americans would say "bad medicine"

If the other 7 stores were / are an issue, bais din is not an answer. You follow corporate America practices and apologise, recitify and fix

[Eliyohu]

Another question might be, is your tzitzis and talis kosher ?

People pay alot of money for Niputz L'ishma, and will either tie it themselves or someone who they personally know a d trust.. pretty standard in the litvish B'nei Torah community..
Particularly for those who wear Techelis there's supposedly alot of fraud..

"would you use a non Rambam eruv to carry?"

Ftfy
JK

in a certain city in europe there is an orthodox shul run by a rabbi who previously practiced as a reform rabbi in america.
unfortunately, he does conversions and weddings in his reform style.
when confronted; he replied: if we (orthodox) wont do it for them, they'll go to reform.
so he does reform work for them.

if we dont sell pasul mezuzas, they'll buy paper ones.

*WE DON'T BEND THE TORAH!*

[Yehuda57]

I feel like I've been going back and forth way to much on this and tried to summarize my thoughts here, if anyone has any interest in reading for longer than 3 seconds:
https://medium.com/@Squilled/mezuzah-fraud-or-baseless-conspiracy-5b60f335a15b

[BerB]

I feel like I've been going back and forth way to much on this and tried to summarize my thoughts here, if anyone has any interest in reading for longer than 3 seconds:
https://medium.com/@Squilled/mezuzah-fraud-or-baseless-conspiracy-5b60f335a15b

You make it sound like you are done with commenting in this thread, but we all know you'll be back.

[Yehuda57]

You make it sound like you are done with commenting in this thread, but we all know you'll be back.

Go back to the buyer's group thread.

[BerB]

Go back to the buyer's group thread.

Wow, they were right when they said the DDFers are aggressive against newbies.

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Wow, they were right when they said the DDFers are aggressive against newbies.

I've been here for years and they will throw me under the bus

[BerB]

I've been here for years and they will throw me under the bus

I feel much better now.

[Yehuda57]

Wow, they were right when they said the DDFers are aggressive against newbies.

Wow, they're right when they say the people on DDF are not welcoming. SMH.

[Emkay]

in a certain city in europe there is an orthodox shul run by a rabbi who previously practiced as a reform rabbi in america.
unfortunately, he does conversions and weddings in his reform style.
when confronted; he replied: if we (orthodox) wont do it for them, they'll go to reform.
so he does reform work for them.

if we dont sell pasul mezuzas, they'll buy paper ones.

I'm not sure if you're being serious or not, but this is the silliest thing I've read in this thread so far.

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I feel like I've been going back and forth way to much on this and tried to summarize my thoughts here, if anyone has any interest in reading for longer than 3 seconds:
https://medium.com/@Squilled/mezuzah-fraud-or-baseless-conspiracy-5b60f335a15b

Great points though I generally don't like prose written as theater.

My issue is that machon Stam baseline mezuzos are $40 and 10/10 held up. Maybe lone Wolff point is, you can make cheap but good ? I dunno.

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Be nice or I'll pick on you 

[BerB]

You made me go underground for over a year and now again you go after me.

You know what's worse than the Chilul Lubavitch of being caught selling Posul Mezuzos to unsuspecting buyers? Embarrasing someone in public.