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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #240 on: January 08, 2019, 12:23:27 AM »
*sigh* we are all passionate but why get nasry? Anyways I'm done here, can we sing kumbaya and get along?!  Or some uncle moishy ?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #241 on: January 08, 2019, 12:25:59 AM »
*sigh* we are all passionate but why get nasry? Anyways I'm done here, can we sing kumbaya and get along?!  Or some uncle moishy ?
We're brothers. We're kidding around.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #242 on: January 08, 2019, 12:28:23 AM »
We're brothers. We're kidding around.

Don't be nasry! Lol

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #243 on: January 08, 2019, 06:46:35 AM »
I'm not sure if you're being serious or not, but this is the silliest thing I've read in this thread so far.
true story. i spoke to the rabbi.
regarding the mezuzas, that seems to be the excuse that i keep on hearing from these vendors: "obviously they are not the best, but if not for these they would have nothing".

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #244 on: January 08, 2019, 10:01:09 AM »

if we dont sell pasul mezuzas, they'll buy paper ones.


disgustingly wrong

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #245 on: January 08, 2019, 10:10:27 AM »
if we dont sell pasul mezuzas, they'll buy paper ones.

What is the difference between a pasul one and a paper one?
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #246 on: January 08, 2019, 10:18:46 AM »
What is the difference between a pasul one and a paper one?
That's exactly his point! Like the guy doing reform conversions to stop people from going to reform.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #247 on: January 08, 2019, 10:40:21 AM »
Bottom line though, do I need to have my 1 year old ~$200 A"R Ksav mezuzos checked?

IIRC you inquired about the sofrim that wrote your mezuzos. That should in most cases keep you safe.

I wonder if anyone buying cheap mezuzos even inquired as to which ksav this is, or asked to see them prior. Some of the samples Wolf brings look almost like they were written with something other than a quill.
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #248 on: January 08, 2019, 10:49:04 AM »
Would you eat at a restaurant if the mashgiach goes to strip clubs (I know a few of these as does @ExGingi  I bet )

Huh?

Unlike quite a few around here, I don't know that you know me personally. I definitely don't know you, other than your DDF persona. Why in the world would you think that I know anyone, let alone a mashgiach, that goes to strip clubs?

FTR, I agree that seeing how a person acts in Shul and davens might be an indication of their Yiras Shomaim. I can tell you with almost absolute certainty that the owner of Judaica World would not talk during davening, definitely not during Kadish, and I'm pretty sure that the same hold true for his son-in-law (even before his recently assumed position of 11 months community service).
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #249 on: January 08, 2019, 11:12:35 AM »
That's exactly his point! Like the guy doing reform conversions to stop people from going to reform.
+1
i was wondering if its just me or is everyone stupid  ???

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #250 on: January 08, 2019, 01:02:29 PM »
When I asked sofrim about A"R ksav mezuzos one told me that his range from $100 to $500 and to buy the best you can afford.
:o Were they on sale?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #251 on: January 08, 2019, 01:20:24 PM »
Familiar with any of these?
http://machonstam.com/store/mezuzas

Two interesting observations:

1. No Beis Yosef (and seemingly none of the merchants sell any of those, based on the images posted by Wolf).
2. Lowest cost mezuzah by NAMED sofer is $80, UNNAMED have 5 categories ranging from $42 to $130.
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #252 on: January 08, 2019, 01:44:28 PM »
Another interesting observation: how many of the sofrim still have the cheap mezuzos available?

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #253 on: January 08, 2019, 01:53:19 PM »
Another interesting observation: how many of the sofrim still have the cheap mezuzos available?
Oh. There's no doubt in my mind that the bar will be raised by this fiasco, and sub $42 will no longer be available.

Writing STaM isn't a profitable occupation from what I understand. The money is with the merchants and in checking. It's a huge challenge. Writing also requires a very specific personality and abilities. I know a yungerman who used to frequent my Shabbos table when he was a bochur in 770. He told me (several years ago) that he was learning to become a Sofer. He told me that a big part of the learning was holding the קולמוס and writing techniques that would enable hours of writing without becoming disabled.
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #254 on: January 08, 2019, 03:06:57 PM »
That's exactly his point! Like the guy doing reform conversions to stop people from going to reform.
really now....
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #255 on: January 08, 2019, 04:45:36 PM »
Oh. There's no doubt in my mind that the price will be raised by this fiasco, and sub $42 will no longer be available.
Ftfy

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #256 on: January 08, 2019, 05:50:02 PM »
Wow, they were right when they said the DDFers are aggressive against newbies.
Absolutely. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen
Don't ask stupid questions and you won't get stupid answers

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #257 on: January 08, 2019, 05:50:19 PM »
Huh?

Unlike quite a few around here, I don't know that you know me personally. I definitely don't know you, other than your DDF persona. Why in the world would you think that I know anyone, let alone a mashgiach, that goes to strip clubs?

FTR, I agree that seeing how a person acts in Shul and davens might be an indication of their Yiras Shomaim. I can tell you with almost absolute certainty that the owner of Judaica World would not talk during davening, definitely not during Kadish, and I'm pretty sure that the same hold true for his son-in-law (even before his recently assumed position of 11 months community service).

You mentioned mashgichim of pesach programs that ate chametz on pesach.

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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #258 on: January 08, 2019, 06:16:56 PM »
You mentioned mashgichim of pesach programs that ate chametz on pesach.
I did?
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Mezuzah Fraud
« Reply #259 on: January 08, 2019, 06:44:49 PM »
I did?
That may have been me. (I know I mentioned it, I don't whether or not you did as well.)