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Polar Zmanim On The Antarctic Cruise
« on: January 05, 2019, 08:54:52 PM »
So what months is best time for Antarctica, December? Jan/Feb? what are your thoughts on last minute half prices buying the cruise tickets in Ushuaia last minute? I'm googling it is a big hit or miss and don't mind to sit around Ushuaia for a few days to save $5000.

And after reading some reports from SF I think Falkland Islands is not to be missed when choosing a cruise.

From the Moment it seems that they made sure to go at a time that they had a night of about 20 minutes. Some months there's no night at all making it more complicated halachacally...
Or did Innot read it correctly?

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Re: Polar Zmanim On The Antarctic Cruise
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2019, 09:00:00 PM »
From the Moment it seems that they made sure to go at a time that they had a night of about 20 minutes. Some months there's no night at all making it more complicated halachacally...
Or did Innot read it correctly?

There was no night at all.

The 20 minute comment was that regarding sunset, all shitos came to within around 20 minutes of each other so it was easy to be machmir.

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Re: Polar Zmanim On The Antarctic Cruise
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2019, 09:02:19 PM »
There was no night at all.

The 20 minute comment was that regarding sunset, all shitos came to within around 20 minutes of each other so it was easy to be machmir.

When you have time, can you please expand on this ?

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Re: Polar Zmanim On The Antarctic Cruise
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2019, 11:20:09 PM »
I can write a book on the research I did into the sunset issues.
@dirah was a massive help sorting things out. Would be great if he can share more.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Polar Zmanim On The Antarctic Cruise
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2019, 01:52:32 AM »
In the article SF says he's planning to do it again.

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Re: Polar Zmanim On The Antarctic Cruise
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2019, 02:00:45 AM »
I can write a book on the research I did into the sunset issues.
@dirah was a massive help sorting things out. Would be great if he can share more.

Was all this discussed publically in the private threads for this trip?

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Re: Polar Zmanim On The Antarctic Cruise
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2019, 02:01:30 AM »
Nope.
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Re: Polar Zmanim On The Antarctic Cruise
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2019, 02:02:55 AM »
Nope.

One shita written in the article.
6 years weekday, and 1 whole year shabbos...
So interesting.

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Re: Polar Zmanim On The Antarctic Cruise
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2019, 02:08:23 AM »


I can write a book on the research I did into the sunset issues.

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Re: Polar Zmanim On The Antarctic Cruise
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2019, 04:10:19 AM »
Same shaala when traveling to HKG on the polar route and night doesn't fall, Summer, or the sun doesn't rise, winter, and you arrive two days later...

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Re: Polar Zmanim On The Antarctic Cruise
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2019, 05:08:13 AM »
One shita written in the article.
6 years weekday, and 1 whole year shabbos...
So interesting.

That's the Minchas Elezar's shita.

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Re: Polar Zmanim On The Antarctic Cruise
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2019, 08:06:41 AM »
One shita written in the article.
6 years weekday, and 1 whole year shabbos...
So interesting.
its not that weird when you look at the explanation.
day and night depends on sunrise and sunset, so if that only happens once a year, then a year = a day.
so yes, it'll take 7 years for a week.

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Re: Polar Zmanim On The Antarctic Cruise
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2019, 08:52:16 AM »
its not that weird when you look at the explanation.
day and night depends on sunrise and sunset, so if that only happens once a year, then a year = a day.
so yes, it'll take 7 years for a week.

Does that really only happen once a year all around the area near the pole, or does the sun make several passes skimming  below and above the horizon around the equinox in those areas away from the exact pole?
« Last Edit: January 06, 2019, 08:56:28 AM by cmey »

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Re: Polar Zmanim On The Antarctic Cruise
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2019, 12:04:48 PM »
If anyone is really interested, pm me and Iíll ask a family member for a psak. He has sforim on it and he travels the world too so he knows every zman and shita for every longitude and latitude

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Re: Polar Zmanim On The Antarctic Cruise
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2019, 12:27:53 PM »
If anyone is really interested, pm me and Iíll ask a family member for a psak. He has sforim on it and he travels the world too so he knows every zman and shita for every longitude and latitude

Lot's of us, me included are interested in reading up on this fascinating halachic discussion.