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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #120 on: April 05, 2021, 01:51:48 PM »
What's the flight number? I'll ask Spirit for comment.
Assuming NK735 only flight from MCO-LAS on NK today

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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #121 on: April 05, 2021, 01:52:40 PM »
I didn't watch all the videos. Was there something egregious?
Nope.
It did seem from the video that the kid didn't want to wear a mask even when not eating.

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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #122 on: April 05, 2021, 01:52:59 PM »
Oh come on, in a week of awful takes on this forum generalizing and stereotyping Jews, this may be the worst  yet
Say what you want, I love them and i dont think ill of them even a bit for having a hard time, but i have with my own eyes seen the difficulty of controlling multiple children. Im not sure why you think im stereotyping them, besides for saying that they have more kids

EDIT: after re-reading my post i did dig at the parents for not wearing masks themselves, that was unjustified

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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #123 on: April 05, 2021, 01:53:58 PM »
Oh c'mon. For every story of issues with a Jewish 2 year old kicked off, are probably 100 that FAs didn't enforce with a Jewish 2 year old.
It's just luck of the draw. Some FAs enforce every rule to the T, while most have empathy.
I concede that is likely the case. I have yet to see it play out the same way with non Jews. While I have been on a dozen flights where it was not enforced with children or even adults that were eating.

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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #124 on: April 05, 2021, 01:55:29 PM »
Assuming NK735 only flight from MCO-LAS on NK today
I believe this



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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #125 on: April 05, 2021, 01:56:02 PM »
I concede that is likely the case. I have yet to see it play out the same way with non Jews. While I have been on a dozen flights where it was not enforced with children or even adults that were eating.
Black pax in front of me in F on a DL flight got tossed for a mask violation. Luck of the draw, granted with anti-semitism in some cases.
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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #126 on: April 05, 2021, 01:57:12 PM »
I concede that is likely the case. I have yet to see it play out the same way with non Jews. While I have been on a dozen flights where it was not enforced with children or even adults that were eating.
It so happens that i was on a flight recently with not too many yidden and the pilot announced multiple times in a progressively graver tone that you have to keep mask on unless actively eating. I cant confirm he wasnt warning yidden but i dont think he was. (It was mid-flight so they usually give more leeway before kicking them off at that point)

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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #127 on: April 05, 2021, 02:03:27 PM »
Say what you want, I love them and i dont think ill of them even a bit for having a hard time, but i have with my own eyes seen the difficulty of controlling multiple children. Im not sure why you think im stereotyping them, besides for saying that they have more kids

EDIT: after re-reading my post i did dig at the parents for not wearing masks themselves, that was unjustified

Did you reread the part were you say that yidden have this problem?
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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #128 on: April 05, 2021, 02:04:05 PM »
I believe this



@yuneeq
Yup.
I asked Spirit for comment.

PM me and I'll try to type something up on DDMS. Will the family talk with me about what happened?
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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #129 on: April 05, 2021, 02:10:14 PM »
Did you reread the part were you say that yidden have this problem?
Again, no. I said they have kids and its hard to control kids. I think everyone has a hard time controlling kids, especially on an airplane with yidden not being an exception. Therefore i felt that in some cases the reason for eviction is the passenger not the FAs. The reason why LCCs is either like @Dan said they arent trained as well, or i thought if its true that the cause for eviction is the passenger, which i thought maybe is do to having a hard time with kids, then that is another reason why it occurs on LCCs because of the need to buy more tickets. I think that sums up my points
Its possible it sounded like i was stereotyping them but it was not my intent

(I feel like APP giving an apology for an apology for something i didnt mean)

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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #130 on: April 05, 2021, 02:12:17 PM »
That's enough to be led away by cops?
I feel like this story is missing context.
Maybe he asked for the escort as he was scared of the “hostile” crowd
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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #131 on: April 05, 2021, 04:51:26 PM »
Very sad story but at least the ending was a good ending. Credit to the Orlando Police Department who stayed with the Family the entire time and made sure that they had what they needed. They were also able to arrange with the chief pilot once they confirmed that the pilot and crewmembers did not have a problem with it and it was only one crew member that had an issue and that crew member was safely escorted to the tram and the family and the rest of the passengers were able to reboard  the plane and  depart. It ended with the father of the child giving the officer a warm handshake and a hug before boarding the plane again.

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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #132 on: April 05, 2021, 04:58:15 PM »
Very sad story but at least the ending was a good ending. Credit to the Orlando Police Department who stayed with the Family the entire time and made sure that they had what they needed. They were also able to arrange with the chief pilot once they confirmed that the pilot and crewmembers did not have a problem with it and it was only one crew member that had an issue and that crew member was safely escorted to the tram and the family and the rest of the passengers were able to reboard  the plane and  depart. It ended with the father of the child giving the officer a warm handshake and a hug before boarding the plane again.
Where is this from?
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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #133 on: April 05, 2021, 05:04:46 PM »
Fly with a GoPro Rolling...
I keep one as backup these days... Sad state but badly needed.
Always praying for delayed baggage.

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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #134 on: April 05, 2021, 05:07:45 PM »
Where is this from?
WhatsApp forward

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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #135 on: April 05, 2021, 05:08:41 PM »
Fly with a GoPro Rolling...
I keep one as backup these days... Sad state but badly needed.
Where do you wear it?
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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #136 on: April 05, 2021, 05:26:04 PM »
Very sad story but at least the ending was a good ending. Credit to the Orlando Police Department who stayed with the Family the entire time and made sure that they had what they needed. They were also able to arrange with the chief pilot once they confirmed that the pilot and crewmembers did not have a problem with it and it was only one crew member that had an issue and that crew member was safely escorted to the tram and the family and the rest of the passengers were able to reboard  the plane and  depart. It ended with the father of the child giving the officer a warm handshake and a hug before boarding the plane again.

I can verify all of this besides what went on behind the scenes with crew. Though from what I saw- the crew for the most part did seem to be pretty sympathetic besides one or 2 FA’s.

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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #137 on: April 05, 2021, 05:27:34 PM »
Where do you wear it?
I have it in my backpack, if I smell something coming my way ill strap it on my belt [, such as a rude FA, belt mount]. Usually by the time you get to the plane ramp you know if you'll need it.


Its totally crazy but crazy stuff happen.

I was on a flight this CH where the FA was telling all jews they are the best kindest most compliant people and just last CH the FA was bashing jews [same airline]. All you need is some FA thinking of you a certain way and you can get into legal trouble [as I've seen happen to others].
Always praying for delayed baggage.

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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #138 on: April 05, 2021, 06:49:43 PM »
Invalid Tweet ID
@Dan this is quite the bold official statement when video clearly shows otherwise.

ETA: looks like it might have been deleted already?


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Re: Friends don't let friends fly spirit.
« Reply #139 on: April 05, 2021, 07:04:32 PM »
Only Spirit could manage to dig themselves into a deeper hole.