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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #80 on: January 25, 2019, 12:37:37 PM »
1) AA promised them their luggage, then lied and sent it to detroit.

Aren't they legally required to remove the luggage from the plane?

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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #81 on: January 25, 2019, 12:41:26 PM »
What does the reporter who interviewed them in the airport say? Dis s/he feel that they smelled? What about the camera crew?
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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #82 on: January 25, 2019, 12:42:45 PM »
Hey mods, should this thread be merged with the other "body odor" thread into a "Master thread of Body Odor social norms"?
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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #83 on: January 25, 2019, 12:57:20 PM »
I'd just like to point out that nobody here has any right or reason to just claim that religious discrimination took place in this case. I get that the couple is claiming that but according to their own story, they don't really know if that's the case or not since they didn't even ask why they were being removed until they were already off the plane. Calling anti-semitism when you have absolutely no way of proving it does a disservice to all of us and does only harm, not good. Imagine if the same story took place with a black family and they claimed discrimination, half the people here would be saying that they are overreacting and calling racism just to justify themselves when they can't prove it. Don't be a hypocrite just because you happen to be Jewish also. While anti-semitism has been on the rise around the world in general, we should not be so quick to use it as an excuse for self-justification, especially when it is not verifiable and no violence took place.

Just my $.02.

The reason why you have to "imagine" this happening to a black family, is because it will never happen, no matter how smelly the blacks might be.
Furthermore, there's definitely smelly people from all walks of life, and obviously certain ethnicities and races more than others. However, this family is a nice clean cut family, you'd never expect anyone from any ethnicity that looks clean cut, to ever be thrown off a plane. And yes it would be upsetting if that happened, no matter the ethnicity.

In other words, it only happened to a clean cut family because people on the plane are anti-semitic, and the airline was more than happy to satisfy racists instead of ignoring them or solving it in a way that was not degrading or bothersome for the family. Despite Jewish people being a small % of the US, more than 50% of hate crime is against Jews, this is just another example of the widespread anti-semitic mentality that you think doesn't exist.
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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #84 on: January 25, 2019, 01:31:48 PM »
Despite Jewish people being a small % of the US, more than 50% of hate crime is against Jews, this is just another example of the widespread anti-semitic mentality that you think doesn't exist.

Where does that statistic come from?
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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #85 on: January 25, 2019, 01:35:04 PM »
The reason why you have to "imagine" this happening to a black family, is because it will never happen, no matter how smelly the blacks might be.
Furthermore, there's definitely smelly people from all walks of life, and obviously certain ethnicities and races more than others. However, this family is a nice clean cut family, you'd never expect anyone from any ethnicity that looks clean cut, to ever be thrown off a plane. And yes it would be upsetting if that happened, no matter the ethnicity.

In other words, it only happened to a clean cut family because people on the plane are anti-semitic, and the airline was more than happy to satisfy racists instead of ignoring them or solving it in a way that was not degrading or bothersome for the family. Despite Jewish people being a small % of the US, more than 50% of hate crime is against Jews, this is just another example of the widespread anti-semitic mentality that you think doesn't exist.
Does anybody really believe anti-semitism doesn’t exist? Just read the comments thread on any major online publication when there’s a story that involves a Jew.
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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #86 on: January 25, 2019, 01:47:21 PM »
Where does that statistic come from?
FBI releases bias crime stats. Giyf. Though I believe the stat is being misrepresented, it's over 50% of *religious* based bias crimes.
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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #87 on: January 25, 2019, 01:58:07 PM »
FBI releases bias crime stats. Giyf. Though I believe the stat is being misrepresented, it's over 50% of *religious* based bias crimes.
That makes a lot more sense.
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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #88 on: January 25, 2019, 02:31:42 PM »
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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #89 on: January 25, 2019, 02:46:53 PM »
The reason why you have to "imagine" this happening to a black family, is because it will never happen, no matter how smelly the blacks might be.
Furthermore, there's definitely smelly people from all walks of life, and obviously certain ethnicities and races more than others. However, this family is a nice clean cut family, you'd never expect anyone from any ethnicity that looks clean cut, to ever be thrown off a plane. And yes it would be upsetting if that happened, no matter the ethnicity.

In other words, it only happened to a clean cut family because people on the plane are anti-semitic, and the airline was more than happy to satisfy racists instead of ignoring them or solving it in a way that was not degrading or bothersome for the family. Despite Jewish people being a small % of the US, more than 50% of hate crime is against Jews, this is just another example of the widespread anti-semitic mentality that you think doesn't exist.
In the news not so long ago..

https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-united-airlines-lawsuit-pungent-odor-20180512-story.html
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Nigerian woman kicked off United flight after white man complained she was 'pungent': lawsuit

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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #90 on: January 27, 2019, 01:36:10 AM »
In the news not so long ago..

https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-united-airlines-lawsuit-pungent-odor-20180512-story.html
Wow. Do you see the difference in the way the story is presented?

Here is their headline when it comes to a Jewish family..

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/midwest/ct-jewish-family-body-odor-american-airlines-20190125-story.html

Headlines:
“Michigan family booted over ‘body odor’, but they say anti-semitism to blame”
“Nigerian woman kicked off after white man complained she was ‘pungent’: lawsuit”
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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #91 on: January 27, 2019, 04:38:29 AM »
Wow. Do you see the difference in the way the story is presented?

Here is their headline when it comes to a Jewish family..

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/midwest/ct-jewish-family-body-odor-american-airlines-20190125-story.html

Headlines:
“Michigan family booted over ‘body odor’, but they say anti-semitism to blame”
“Nigerian woman kicked off after white man complained she was ‘pungent’: lawsuit”
I don't get the difference

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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #92 on: January 27, 2019, 08:26:59 AM »
I don't get the difference
You're serious?

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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #93 on: January 27, 2019, 09:28:40 AM »
The thing I find the most interesting about this is the fact that they decided to publicize it. If it were me, Id be hiding in shame (Irrelevant whether I felt I smelled or not). And even if I would want to publicize it, my wife would never have let me

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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #95 on: January 27, 2019, 09:40:46 AM »
The thing I find the most interesting about this is the fact that they decided to publicize it. If it were me, Id be hiding in shame (Irrelevant whether I felt I smelled or not). And even if I would want to publicize it, my wife would never have let me
+1. These people will forever smell in my head. Regardless the perfume they used that day ;D
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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #96 on: January 27, 2019, 11:51:47 AM »
The thing I find the most interesting about this is the fact that they decided to publicize it. If it were me, Id be hiding in shame (Irrelevant whether I felt I smelled or not). And even if I would want to publicize it, my wife would never have let me
Exactly
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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #97 on: January 27, 2019, 12:02:55 PM »
The thing I find the most interesting about this is the fact that they decided to publicize it. If it were me, Id be hiding in shame (Irrelevant whether I felt I smelled or not). And even if I would want to publicize it, my wife would never have let me

If I see correctly there was a reporter when they got off the plane.
Why was the reporter there? Seems strange

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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #98 on: January 27, 2019, 12:34:20 PM »
+1. These people will forever smell in my head. Regardless the perfume they used that day ;D
This is a good lesson on lashon hora. True or false, impressions will always remain.

Also, they probably didn’t think this through all the way on the spot, but I agree, I probably wouldn’t fight it publicly like this. Although like @ExGingi noted there is probably more to the story that we’re not hearing.
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Re: American kicks Jewish family off flights because of 'body odor'
« Reply #99 on: January 27, 2019, 12:41:18 PM »
The thing I find the most interesting about this is the fact that they decided to publicize it. If it were me, Id be hiding in shame (Irrelevant whether I felt I smelled or not). And even if I would want to publicize it, my wife would never have let me
well all this proves that they sure did NOT smell. if they would think of any mildest smell, they would flee the airport.
but one thing, I don't see why the blame is on AA, if someone complains abt a passenger they get the passenger off, now that complainer is the 1 who was anti-semite if anybody, and they should be held responsible. but they wouldn't speak for obvious reasons.
they should've asked who complained, and put up a show, like who else says I smell?
AA saying that "alot of ppl" were complaining, is something I would do as well, to wash clean of the case.