Future US tax policy

[CountValentine]

Not so as @ExGingi has pointed out many times. If your income is now entirely ordinary income from retirement accounts that can drastically change your tax profile from one based on earned income which can be eligible for EIC and more. In addition to that, you do not have the same withholding requirements on the retirement funds as you had on your paycheck. This can cause it to seem like someone is paying more even if they are really paying less (I doubt you would make such a mistake). There are other factors which change as well. This makes the 2 years of your returns not comparable.

There you go again with comparing. 
All I did was state a fact.
You all seem to think everyone is wasting hours trying to figure out the difference between the tax plans. All they care about is the bottom line. The bottom line is almost everyone got back less or paid more when they did their taxes. It is that simple.

[aygart]

There you go again with comparing. 

HUH?

[aygart]

There you go again with comparing. 
All I did was state a fact.
You all seem to think everyone is wasting hours trying to figure out the difference between the tax plans. All they care about is the bottom line. The bottom line is almost everyone got back less or paid more when they did their taxes. It is that simple.

I would guess that most people are simply leaving it that they have less withheld and therfore a larger paycheck and a lower refund and are unsure whether or not they are paying more or less overall bottom line.

[CountValentine]

HUH?

This makes the 2 years of your returns not comparable.

[aygart]

ahh so saying that you can't compare is comparing. Got it now some of your other posts make much more sense.

[CountValentine]

I would guess that most people are simply leaving it that they have less withheld and therfore a larger paycheck and a lower refund and are unsure whether or not they are paying more or less overall bottom line.

No just the opposite. They feel they got screwed. Seeing a 5-10 dollars different each week goes unnoticed. Getting 400-500 less back at the end of the year and they are up in arms.

How can the people you know not seeing less when they do their taxes? All things being equal because of the games they played with withholding they should get less or have to pay more at the end of the year.

You really do need to get out more and see what the average American sees. 

[CountValentine]

ahh so saying that you can't compare is comparing. Got it now some of your other posts make much more sense.

In the English language "not" and "can't" are not (not can't) the same.

[aygart]

In the English language "not" and "can't" are not (not can't) the same.

Explain the difference between things not compareable and that you can't compare.

[aygart]

No just the opposite. They feel they got screwed. Seeing a 5-10 dollars different each week goes unnoticed. Getting 400-500 less back at the end of the year and they are up in arms.

How can the people you know not seeing less when they do their taxes? All things being equal because of the games they played with withholding they should get less or have to pay more at the end of the year.

You really do need to get out more and see what the average American sees. 

right because the average american just retired on a government pension...

[CountValentine]

right because the average american just retired on a government pension...

Please explain how the average American got more back on their taxes or paid less when the withholding was less each paycheck?
You are really off your game with this nonsense.

[CountValentine]

Explain the difference between things not compareable and that you can't compare.

When you say something is "not comparable" like taxes it is a given you did some type of comparison to come to that conclusion.

[aygart]

Please explain how the average American got more back on their taxes or paid less when the withholding was less each paycheck?
You are really off your game with this nonsense.

I'm not sure what your question is, but are you trying to say that people really did pay less but that they may not be noticing it since it was spread over longer periods of time?

[CountValentine]

I'm not sure what your question is, but are you trying to say that people really did pay less but that they may not be noticing it since it was spread over longer periods of time?

I am saying almost all average Americans either got back less or paid more than the year before when they did their taxes. They are pissed about it and feel they got screwed. Unless I am understanding you wrong you said people you know this didn't happen to. If that is the case you need to get out more.

[aygart]

I am saying almost all average Americans either got back less or paid more than the year before when they did their taxes.

Source?

[CountValentine]

Source?

Simple math.

[aygart]

When you say something is "not comparable" like taxes it is a given you did some type of comparison to come to that conclusion.

So lets get this straight. You compared what you paid between 2 years and said that one was higher than the other. Then I said that they are not comparable and I am the one comparing?

[aygart]

Simple math.

You saw the numbers for most americans? Did you work for the Obama Administration?

[CountValentine]

You saw the numbers for most americans? Did you work for the Obama Administration?

That's one, since we are keeping track. 

[aygart]

That's one, since we are keeping track. 

LOL

[CountValentine]

So lets get this straight. You compared what you paid between 2 years and said that one was higher than the other. Then I said that they are not comparable and I am the one comparing?

There you going again trying to twist this into I and the one comparing.