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Do you daven out loud?
« on: February 04, 2019, 09:26:02 PM »
One thing I miss in America, in non chasidic shteibels is the tummult of davening.

I just keep seeing in my eyes, the signs in shteibelach in Israel, kol haoneh yehei shmay rabba.etc...

I wish there would be such a geshrei in America.

On the one hand the young Israel crowd always stand up for yehei shmay rabba but they are so timid.

What about kedusha.. I spent Shabbat in Baltimore,my host took me to a shull / shtiebel there.. and there was such a resounding "yachad, kukam kedusha".  I felt like yechezkiel was there.


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Re: Do you daven out loud?
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2019, 09:27:08 PM »
I thought this was a little more relevant than "do you yawn out loud ;)"

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Re: Do you daven out loud?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2019, 09:37:55 PM »
One thing I miss in America, in non chasidic shteibels is the tummult of davening.

I just keep seeing in my eyes, the signs in shteibelach in Israel, kol haoneh yehei shmay rabba.etc...

I wish there would be such a geshrei in America.

On the one hand the young Israel crowd always stand up for yehei shmay rabba but they are so timid.

What about kedusha.. I spent Shabbat in Baltimore,my host took me to a shull / shtiebel there.. and there was such a resounding "yachad, kukam kedusha".  I felt like yechezkiel was there.


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What shul in Baltimore?

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Re: Do you daven out loud?
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2019, 10:26:01 PM »
What shul in Baltimore?
he said Shteibel, so maybe Taubs? or Sternhill?
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Re: Do you daven out loud?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2019, 01:30:55 AM »
Sure do.. what's a davening if you mumble under your breath!
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Re: Do you daven out loud?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2019, 06:12:48 AM »
he said Shteibel, so maybe Taubs? or Sternhill?

Was really big, new'sh, very nice building. the Rav is chasidish

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Re: Do you daven out loud?
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2019, 06:45:00 AM »
Sure do.. what's a davening if you mumble under your breath!
There's loud and there's loud.
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Re: Do you daven out loud?
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2019, 07:36:28 AM »
Sure do.. what's a davening if you mumble under your breath!
Ummm. A davening?
Where does it say in Halacha that one has to daven with a קול during a regular davening?
Even יהא שמיה רבא is a Machlokes if בכל כוחו means with a קול or not.

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Re: Do you daven out loud?
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2019, 08:12:17 AM »
Was really big, new'sh, very nice building. the Rav is chasidish
Eichensteins?
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Re: Do you daven out loud?
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Re: Do you daven out loud?
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2019, 08:52:59 AM »

On the one hand the young Israel crowd always stand up for yehei shmay rabba but they are so timid.


As a member of the 'young israel crowd', when I daven Shabbos morning at a more yeshivish minyan and/or some chasidish minyanim, I miss the taam tefila - it's just moaning and 'krechtzing' - what happened to Ivdo es hashem b'simcha?

If you think davening is timid, I would suggest you've been to the wrong Young Israels :)

On the subject of kol ram -  I am one of those people who has a voice that carries (It's a mixed blessing, believe me). I don't need to put in effort to bring out my kol ram, I just need to talk. When I said kaddish for each of my parents, I hated walking into a shul where everyone was out of sync when it came to kaddish. You have one person flying through kaddish who is two 'amens' ahead of everyone else, and another (maybe a BT, or someone early in their aveilus where the emotions are strongest) who is struggling with it. I couldn't take it, so I took over. I said kaddish at a loud and deliberate pace (never too slow to cause tircha d'tzibura of course, but I did slow down if I knew that others needed a slower pace).

While I know that can be construed as arrogant and selfish, I try to think of it differently: hashem gave me the opportunity to be the metronome for the other avelim to enable all of us to say kaddish at the same speed so that the kahal can answer amen in unison - so that we merit a z'chus for all of the neshamos that we're saying kaddish for.




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Re: Do you daven out loud?
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2019, 03:58:00 PM »
One thing I miss in America, in non chasidic shteibels is the tummult of davening.
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Re: Do you daven out loud?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2019, 09:29:56 PM »
One thing I miss in America, in non chasidic shteibels is the tummult of davening.

I just keep seeing in my eyes, the signs in shteibelach in Israel, kol haoneh yehei shmay rabba.etc...

I wish there would be such a geshrei in America.

On the one hand the young Israel crowd always stand up for yehei shmay rabba but they are so timid.

What about kedusha.. I spent Shabbat in Baltimore,my host took me to a shull / shtiebel there.. and there was such a resounding "yachad, kukam kedusha".  I felt like yechezkiel was there.


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I got to bring you to stulen(סתלין) and you won't miss the davening out loud again! ;) 
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Re: Do you daven out loud?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2019, 09:33:41 PM »
I got to bring you to stulen(סתלין) and you won't miss the davening out loud again! ;)
Yeh they way out of hand

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Re: Do you daven out loud?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2019, 09:35:36 PM »
Yeh they way out of hand
I Don't understand still to today how they can concentrate like that?!
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