Author Topic: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.  (Read 4820 times)

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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2019, 10:17:40 AM »
Or his attempt to defame a client that dropped him
How do you know who dropped who?

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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2019, 10:25:49 AM »
Or his attempt to defame a client that dropped him
Of course. It is not conclusive in and of itself but is a good starting point. (besides that politics is not so terrible if someone compromises in order to keep a client. Kashrus is.) I would not have eaten either one without doing my own due diligence as I have done for every KSML that has been applicable for myself or my children. As it happens, i have never done on this specific one.
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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2019, 10:40:54 AM »
Lufthansa SKML are no more KOSHER

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הסרת כשרות
On
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הסרת כשרות
היות וקייטרינג "זוהר" המספק מנות לחברת התעופה לופטאנזה, עובר למטבח חדש המשותף עם מטבחים נוספים, הנתונים לשליטת גורמים שונים אשר אינם עומדים ברמת הכשרות הדרושה, ואינני יכול ומסוגל לקחת אחריות על מצב זה.
על כן החלטתי להסיר מהיום והלאה את האחריות מכשרות הקייטרינג.

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How do you know who dropped who?

Sohar dropped Havlin. The story has been ongoing for a couple of weeks.

I personally know Havlin (used to be a regular at my Shabbos table when he was in 770), and Mrs. Sohar once stayed at my house when she came as a guest of one of the FRA Shluchim for the shluchos convention.

If I really cared (a-la @aygartís approach above) I would look deeper into this, just like I just did for the KSML served by IB ex-MAD (deemed unacceptable). 

I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2019, 10:43:37 AM »
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Sohar dropped Havlin. The story has been ongoing for a couple of weeks.

I personally know Havlin (used to be a regular at my Shabbos table when he was in 770), and Mrs. Sohar once stayed at my house when she came as a guest of one of the FRA Shluchim for the shluchos convention.

If I really cared (a-la @aygartís approach above) I would look deeper into this, just like I just did for the KSML served by IB ex-MAD (deemed unacceptable).
Why don't you do the rest of us who do care a favor and get some more information if you can?
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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2019, 10:45:33 AM »
Why don't you do the rest of us who do care a favor and get some more information if you can?
I will post info as I get it, but not going to drop regular programming to thoroughly research this (conversation at the Mikva this morning doesnít count).
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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2019, 10:58:26 AM »
Would be good to make a PSA thread on potentially questionable KSMLs.
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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2019, 10:59:43 AM »
Would be good to make a PSA thread on potentially questionable KSMLs.
we can make this it...?
ETA: Wikified
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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2019, 12:12:24 PM »
we can make this it...?
ETA: Wikified
Thanks. Maybe a mod can change the name of this thread, and also put a link to it in the KSML Master Thread wiki, no?

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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2019, 01:26:09 PM »
Would be good to make a PSA thread on potentially questionable KSMLs.
That might be the rule rather than the exception. Always BYOK.
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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2019, 01:28:21 PM »
Why don't you do the rest of us who do care a favor and get some more information if you can?

FWIW, here's an exchange from last week between Wolf and Havlin, after Wolf was approached by quite a few, asking him to back out.

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מאחר וכנראה לא הובנו מעשיי וכוונותי כדבעי ובמשך כל השנים הייתי החיבור בין הפכים לתועלת הציבור ,ומאחר ואני רואה שלא אוכל להגיע למטרה נשגבת זו על אף שכל כוונותי היו טובות וכנראה שהוטעיתי , אי לכך אני מושך את ידי ומאחל הצלחה לכם

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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2019, 08:16:53 PM »
Appel tried to officially have it under Wolf while he (appel) would be the Mashgiach, but Wolf backed out after being addressed by several Rabonim

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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2019, 12:52:45 AM »
Lufthansa should change to hermolis

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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2019, 12:54:13 AM »
Lufthansa should change to hermolis
As should every other airline. Sweet dreams..

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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2019, 01:24:38 AM »
Iberia is no good? what about Ukrainian?

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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2019, 07:01:47 AM »
Iberia is no good? what about Ukrainian?
Never flew Ukrainian so I don't know. IINM ex-KBP they have supervision of Vishetsky (formerly from Donetsk) who I would probably trust.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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