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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #90 on: March 28, 2019, 01:27:36 PM »
What is the farfel suey reference?

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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #91 on: March 28, 2019, 01:55:27 PM »
In what KSML world is it a 2? Maybe on restaurant scale.

Definitely at least 5 if not 6 or 7 on the KSML acale. At least in F.
To be perfectly honest, I haven't eaten the main course in the past few years due to the Kashrus concerns. Talking from my experience prior to that, and from the looks of it.
But I guess you are correct with regards to comparing it to other KSML's.

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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #92 on: March 28, 2019, 02:37:28 PM »
Is out of Munich the same meals or are they ok?
I often get Stogel out of Munich - and if Sohar, they are normally pre-frozen so not as good as from Frankfurt.


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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #96 on: March 29, 2019, 11:17:11 AM »
I just spoke to a large kashrus agency. They were aware of the fact that the old hechsher was removed, but they had no opinion on the current one. They are looking into it and will give me an answer tomorrow.

Had some trouble getting through, but just got my very firm answer: BYOK.

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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #97 on: March 29, 2019, 11:21:29 AM »
Had some trouble getting through, but just got my very firm answer: BYOK.

Thanks for the update.

Wouldn't you BYOK even if you were told it's acceptable/reliable? After all that is @Dan's standing advice even in cases where KSML is known to be of high standards (from both Kashrus and quality standpoint)?
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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #98 on: March 29, 2019, 11:31:15 AM »
Had some trouble getting through, but just got my very firm answer: BYOK.
Can you share agency?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #99 on: March 29, 2019, 11:39:42 AM »
Thanks for the update.

Wouldn't you BYOK even if you were told it's acceptable/reliable? After all that is @Dan's standing advice even in cases where KSML is known to be of high standards (from both Kashrus and quality standpoint)?

Of course. But it's always nice when you get a pretty good KSML as well.

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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #100 on: March 29, 2019, 11:40:32 AM »
Can you share agency?

They asked me not to share it publicly.

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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #101 on: March 29, 2019, 11:41:15 AM »
They asked me not to share it publicly.
I'm going to take this at face value...
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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #102 on: March 29, 2019, 11:41:37 AM »
Of course. But it's always nice when you get a pretty good KSML as well.
Probably a 10 now that the hechsher is no good.

They asked me not to share it publicly.
So it's no good, but let's not tell the public it's no good.
Sigh.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #103 on: March 29, 2019, 11:42:39 AM »


Probably a 10 now that the hechsher is no good.
Airline:LH
Class:Y
Route:MUC-TLV
Caterer:Sohar's
Hechsher: Chief Rabbi of Frankfurt
Flight date: 03/28/19
Meal in pics:Dinner
ZSH rating: according to my Israeli seatmate "אני  על המטוס מעשר בבוקר ממיאמי דרך שוויץ, אני מכיר את האוכל הזה וזה לא טוב אבל מה לעשות" seems to fit in the 2-3 zone.

Question is, do we rate Y meals by the same standards as premium class meals, or by what you'd expect from a Y meal?

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Re: BEWARE: Lufthansa "Kosher" from FRA loses kashrus.
« Reply #104 on: March 29, 2019, 11:44:09 AM »
So it's no good, but let's not tell the public it's no good.
Sigh.

They don't want to come out officially against another hechsher. That's their call and I need to respect that request \_(ツ)_/.