Virgin Atlantic to start LHR - TLV flights in Sept.

[Yonah]

Via Globes - https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-virgin-atlantic-launching-tel-aviv-london-flights-in-sep-1001272438

[gold]

Flight times?

[Proisrael]

Flight times?

13:30-20:35
07:15-11:10

then 10/27

16:00-23:05

06:05-09:55

That number though of 180,000 seats added on the TLV-LHR route is pretty amazing

[gold]

13:30-20:35
07:15-11:10

then 10/27

16:00-23:05

06:05-09:55

That number though of 180,000 seats added on the TLV-LHR route is pretty amazing

Source?

[gold]

13:30-20:35
07:15-11:10

then 10/27

16:00-23:05

06:05-09:55

That number though of 180,000 seats added on the TLV-LHR route is pretty amazing

Not on sale yet!

[tavster]

That number though of 180,000 seats added on the TLV-LHR route is pretty amazing

Was wondering where the 180k figure came from 

https://www.virginatlantic.com/us/en/media-centre/press-releases/new-route-launch.html?cm_mmc=US+Affiliates-_-Commisssion+Junction-_-7718223-_-13280186&cjevent=9ee6e7762d5f11e9821a02fa0a18050e&tmplaceref=PointsPros%2C+Inc.&tmclickref=www.virginatlantic.com&tmad=c&tmcampid=33

[zagguru]

From TPG

“While neither airline has alluded to such service modifications, the new London Heathrow/Tel Aviv service could eventually allow Delta to end the airline’s flights to Tel Aviv. Delta operates a single daily non-stop from its New York-JFK hub. Though the airline has previously signaled that the service has been a success, Virgin Atlantic’s new Tel Aviv service could allow Delta to exit the Israeli market and reallocate its equipment to other routes.”


Any thought on this actually happening? Seems very unlikely to me.

[Dan]

From TPG

“While neither airline has alluded to such service modifications, the new London Heathrow/Tel Aviv service could eventually allow Delta to end the airline’s flights to Tel Aviv. Delta operates a single daily non-stop from its New York-JFK hub. Though the airline has previously signaled that the service has been a success, Virgin Atlantic’s new Tel Aviv service could allow Delta to exit the Israeli market and reallocate its equipment to other routes.”


Any thought on this actually happening? Seems very unlikely to me.

Typical TPG drivel.
And DL is adding a 2nd daily TLV flight! Bozos...

[yelped]

Lololol. That is absolutely nonsensical.

[ludmila]

From TPG

“While neither airline has alluded to such service modifications, the new London Heathrow/Tel Aviv service could eventually allow Delta to end the airline’s flights to Tel Aviv. Delta operates a single daily non-stop from its New York-JFK hub. Though the airline has previously signaled that the service has been a success, Virgin Atlantic’s new Tel Aviv service could allow Delta to exit the Israeli market and reallocate its equipment to other routes.”


Any thought on this actually happening? Seems very unlikely to me.

Very unlikely.

[shapsam]

From TPG

“While neither airline has alluded to such service modifications, the new London Heathrow/Tel Aviv service could eventually allow Delta to end the airline’s flights to Tel Aviv. Delta operates a single daily non-stop from its New York-JFK hub. Though the airline has previously signaled that the service has been a success, Virgin Atlantic’s new Tel Aviv service could allow Delta to exit the Israeli market and reallocate its equipment to other routes.”


Any thought on this actually happening? Seems very unlikely to me.

That's like saying:

"While neither airline has alluded to such service modifications, the new Frankfurt/Tel Aviv service could eventually allow United to end the airline’s flights to Tel Aviv. United operates two daily non-stop from its New York-EWR hub. Though the airline has previously signaled that the service has been a success, Lufthansa’s new Tel Aviv service could allow United to exit the Israeli market and reallocate its equipment to other routes.”

[mmgfarb]

That's like saying:

"While neither airline has alluded to such service modifications, the new Frankfurt/Tel Aviv service could eventually allow United to end the airline’s flights to Tel Aviv. United operates two daily non-stop from its New York-EWR hub. Though the airline has previously signaled that the service has been a success, Lufthansa’s new Tel Aviv service could allow United to exit the Israeli market and reallocate its equipment to other routes.”

It's one of the daftest things I've read from TPG and that's saying something.

[yochai]

13:30-20:35
07:15-11:10

then 10/27

16:00-23:05

06:05-09:55

That number though of 180,000 seats added on the TLV-LHR route is pretty amazing

Intresting though that flight times won’t make a lot of their transatlantic flights from LHR. Unless they’re counting on DL flights.

[mikebg]

Intresting though that flight times won’t make a lot of their transatlantic flights from LHR. Unless they’re counting on DL flights.

5 flights a day to NYC
1 to SFO
1 to LAX
1 to BOS

(probably more, but that's all the ones I looked at)
 ... not enough?

[yochai]

5 flights a day to NYC
1 to SFO
1 to LAX
1 to BOS

(probably more, but that's all the ones I looked at)
 ... not enough?

LAX, SFO and ATL leave London too early to make the connection.

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It's clear that NYC is their main focus.

[Abey]

with prem fares (lie flat) on lon-tlv on a seemingly stagnant $1600 and the abundance of lcc i am wondering if this is a nationality push by the CEO rather than smart business move

[ExGingi]

with prem fares (lie flat) on lon-tlv on a seemingly stagnant $1600 and the abundance of lcc i am wondering if this is a nationality push by the CEO rather than smart business move

I'm thinking the same. As for a connection from the US, LHR has a few things going against it (size, cost, etc.), and the flight times seem far from ideal for connections. A 6am flight ex-TLV basically means you give up the night's sleep prior to the flight (hopefully to sleep during the flight), and a TLV arrival after 11pm (post 10/27) means you don't get to settle into bed at your destination anytime before midnight (at best).

[Abey]

I'm thinking the same. As for a connection from the US, LHR has a few things going against it (size, cost, etc.), and the flight times seem far from ideal for connections. A 6am flight ex-TLV basically means you give up the night's sleep prior to the flight (hopefully to sleep during the flight), and a TLV arrival after 11pm (post 10/27) means you don't get to settle into bed at your destination anytime before midnight (at best).

most ex-tlv to EU are in the wee hours of the AM I was mainly questioning the economics  in terms of sending an a-330 with 31 j seats and cheap lcc competition 

[Dan]

They probably don't know and figure it's worth the shot as DXB isn't working.