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Re: Chabad Of CLE Looking To Hire New Shluchim As Educational Directors
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2019, 10:49:33 AM »
Nothing is off-limit from my understanding, but even after 2 years there would still be a salary. It would just be up for negotiation and possibly more reliant on fundraising.
This is a bit of a unique situation as the salary is coming from the community...
Interesting that what is unique for Chabad shuls is the norm for Modern Orthodox shuls.

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Re: Chabad Of CLE Looking To Hire New Shluchim As Educational Directors
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2019, 10:59:10 AM »
Interesting that what is unique for Chabad shuls is the norm for Modern Orthodox shuls.
Not unique for a Chabad Shul, somewhat unique situation for a Shlichus. That’s why Dan felt the need to specify.
I had a local here tell me “you know what the difference between Chabad and all the other temples/synagogues is? By everyone else the community hires the Rabbi by, Chabad the Rabbi brings the community”

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Re: Chabad Of CLE Looking To Hire New Shluchim As Educational Directors
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2019, 11:34:25 AM »
Not unique for a Chabad Shul, somewhat unique situation for a Shlichus. That’s why Dan felt the need to specify.
I had a local here tell me “you know what the difference between Chabad and all the other temples/synagogues is? By everyone else the community hires the Rabbi by, Chabad the Rabbi brings the community”

A local actually used the word "by" in that sentence? Must have had some good Yeshiva education.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Chabad Of CLE Looking To Hire New Shluchim As Educational Directors
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2019, 11:37:58 AM »
If Chabad shluchim are generally compensated from donations, are chabads therefore legally for-profit institutions?
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Re: Chabad Of CLE Looking To Hire New Shluchim As Educational Directors
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2019, 11:39:19 AM »
If Chabad shluchim are generally compensated from donations, are chanas therefore legally for-profit institutions?
because all non profit organizations are volunteer only, no salaries are paid

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Re: Chabad Of CLE Looking To Hire New Shluchim As Educational Directors
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2019, 11:40:05 AM »
If Chabad shluchim are generally compensated from donations, are chanas therefore legally for-profit institutions?
What's that?

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Re: Chabad Of CLE Looking To Hire New Shluchim As Educational Directors
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2019, 11:40:22 AM »
because all non profit organizations are volunteer only, no salaries are paid
No, in a normal non profit, compensation is generally not tied to donations. The CEO is paid a direct salary, he doesn't decide what to take based on donations.

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Re: Chabad Of CLE Looking To Hire New Shluchim As Educational Directors
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2019, 11:48:02 AM »
A local actually used the word "by" in that sentence? Must have had some good Yeshiva education.
;D paraphrasing

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Re: Chabad Of CLE Looking To Hire New Shluchim As Educational Directors
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2019, 11:55:32 AM »
No, in a normal non profit, compensation is generally not tied to donations. The CEO is paid a direct salary, he doesn't decide what to take based on donations.
regardless of wether it's tied to (which varies both on regular orgs and chabad) all salaries are are still funded by donations.
(and guess what, your donation to your MO shul is also tax deductible)

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Re: Chabad Of CLE Looking To Hire New Shluchim As Educational Directors
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2019, 11:58:34 AM »
No, in a normal non profit, compensation is generally not tied to donations. The CEO is paid a direct salary, he doesn't decide what to take based on donations.
The value that the Shliach/Shlucha brings to their organization, (usually) vastly outpaces the salary that they take. Based on comparable organizations they would be justified in taking a larger salary.
The amount fundraised (usually) suppresses salary and not vice versa.
In almost all Chabad organizations the Rabbi and Rebbetzin receive a salary from the organization.

ETA. I assume it would be unusual for a MO Rabbi to go into personal debt for their organization, while it is not that unusual in Chabad.
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Re: Chabad Of CLE Looking To Hire New Shluchim As Educational Directors
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2019, 12:55:02 PM »
No, in a normal non profit, compensation is generally not tied to donations. The CEO is paid a direct salary, he doesn't decide what to take based on donations.

Shluchim get a salary (usually well below market rate), however when there isn't enough money, the first bill not to be paid is payroll.