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Re: Real Life Israeli "Catch Me If You Can" Con Artist
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Re: Real Life Israeli "Catch Me If You Can" Con Artist
« Reply #101 on: February 21, 2022, 11:45:55 PM »
So any thoughts on the movie from Netflix?

Seems the guy is living the life again and his poor victims are all paying back their debts (though I imagine they made bank with netflix)

Yep he is dating an Israeli model and still living a luxurious life somehow. The 3 victims in the documentary owe about $800,000 and they started a gofundme a couple days ago to try and raise some of it. They didn't make anything from the movie.

I knew this thread existed somewhere. They say the fraud was in the millions. The Netflix documentary was just from the dating side, I wonder where the real money was stolen from...

It is estimated that he stole about $10mm. If you listen to the accompanying podcast (I'm in middle), it goes in depth on his side of the story. 
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Re: Real Life Israeli "Catch Me If You Can" Con Artist
« Reply #102 on: February 21, 2022, 11:48:04 PM »
Been banned from several dating apps.

The VG story went viral 3 years ago yet it took a wildly popular Netflix documentary until Tinder finally blocked him. I don't blame Tinder for the swindling, but they shouldn't have only woken up now.
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Re: Real Life Israeli "Catch Me If You Can" Con Artist
« Reply #103 on: February 22, 2022, 10:53:21 AM »
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Re: Real Life Israeli "Catch Me If You Can" Con Artist
« Reply #104 on: February 22, 2022, 11:05:11 AM »
The Netflix podcast (part 3) talks more about the father and his full involvement in his sons conning
https://open.spotify.com/episode/59jAUU61J0EbUHST9NUtDl?si=1AsMl9ksThSyzpRwUnALgw

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Re: Real Life Israeli "Catch Me If You Can" Con Artist
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Re: Real Life Israeli "Catch Me If You Can" Con Artist
« Reply #106 on: February 22, 2022, 11:14:45 AM »
Any way to speed it up?

Spotify has speed up options, you can also try this site that has it as well
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Re: Real Life Israeli "Catch Me If You Can" Con Artist
« Reply #107 on: March 02, 2022, 01:46:35 PM »
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« Reply #109 on: March 02, 2022, 10:12:06 PM »
https://twitter.com/i/events/1498968068013400064

"Tinder Swindler" Simon Leviev Sued by Real Diamond Family

What exactly are they suing for? What material damage did they suffer from him?
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Re: Real Life Israeli "Catch Me If You Can" Con Artist
« Reply #110 on: March 03, 2022, 08:43:20 AM »
What exactly are they suing for? What material damage did they suffer from him?

He committed fraud using their name, and essentially stole their identity to some degree.

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Re: Real Life Israeli "Catch Me If You Can" Con Artist
« Reply #111 on: March 03, 2022, 08:49:09 AM »
He committed fraud using their name, and essentially stole their identity to some degree.

If the criminal courts couldn’t get a conviction, what makes the family think they can get a win in a civil trial.

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Re: Real Life Israeli &quot;Catch Me If You Can&quot; Con Artist
« Reply #112 on: March 03, 2022, 09:21:37 AM »
If the criminal courts couldn’t get a conviction, what makes the family think they can get a win in a civil trial.
The standards of proof are very different. An example is OJ Simpson
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Re: Real Life Israeli "Catch Me If You Can" Con Artist
« Reply #113 on: March 03, 2022, 10:10:27 AM »
The standards of proof are very different. An example is OJ Simpson

I was thinking this too. I guess if they’re suing them they think they have/can get enough proof to win.

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Re: Real Life Israeli "Catch Me If You Can" Con Artist
« Reply #114 on: March 03, 2022, 10:47:39 AM »
He committed fraud using their name, and essentially stole their identity to some degree.

Again, my question is: what MATERIAL damage did he cause to Leviev family?

He legally changed his name. It might have been in order to imply a family relationship to Lev Leviev towards third parties, or it might have even been done explicitly. But those are third parties that might have been damaged. I have yet to hear of any material damage to Lev Leviev's family.
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Re: Real Life Israeli "Catch Me If You Can" Con Artist
« Reply #115 on: March 03, 2022, 10:52:11 AM »
Again, my question is: what MATERIAL damage did he cause to Leviev family?

He legally changed his name. It might have been in order to imply a family relationship to Lev Leviev towards third parties, or it might have even been done explicitly. But those are third parties that might have been damaged. I have yet to hear of any material damage to Lev Leviev's family.
Depending on the jurisdiction, defamation suits may not require material damages.
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Re: Real Life Israeli "Catch Me If You Can" Con Artist
« Reply #116 on: March 03, 2022, 10:52:51 AM »
Again, my question is: what MATERIAL damage did he cause to Leviev family?

He legally changed his name. It might have been in order to imply a family relationship to Lev Leviev towards third parties, or it might have even been done explicitly. But those are third parties that might have been damaged. I have yet to hear of any material damage to Lev Leviev's family.
I guess the question would be did it damage the family's reputation.
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« Reply #117 on: March 03, 2022, 10:54:01 AM »
Depending on the jurisdiction, defamation suits may not require material damages.

I guess the question would be did it damage the family's reputation.

So legally changing his name is part of a defamation lawsuit? Especially when it is so publicly known that he is unrelated?
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Re: Real Life Israeli "Catch Me If You Can" Con Artist
« Reply #118 on: March 03, 2022, 10:58:26 AM »
Especially when it is so publicly known that he is unrelated?
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He had a site saying he was THAT family fwiu. And at the time no one knew.

He created business deals, got free loans, and tons more because of using their name.

The damage will be easy to prove, he stiffed many of those free loans and goods he got.

And like @PlatinumGuy say in many courts you don't need to prove damage to win.
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« Reply #119 on: March 03, 2022, 11:16:38 AM »
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He had a site saying he was THAT family fwiu. And at the time no one knew.
Source? Link?


He created business deals, got free loans, and tons more because of using their name.

The damage will be easy to prove, he stiffed many of those free loans and goods he got.

Damage to whom? Did Lev Leviev's family suffer ANY repercussions from Simon Leviev's (a.k.a. Shimon Hayut) actions? Whether now, or at any point in the past?

And like @PlatinumGuy say in many courts you don't need to prove damage to win.

To win what? In which jurisdiction? What remedies are available if one wins a defamation suit?

(as a side note, Lev Leviev's family are שומרי תומ"צ as far as I know, in a Din Torah even if damage could be proven, I am not sure that they could collect. I am definitely not an expert in Choshen Mishpot, maybe someone who is well versed could chime in).
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