Author Topic: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?  (Read 15826 times)

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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2019, 10:05:51 AM »
Not at all. You have to have paid bituach leumi for entitlement, and you are buried in the city of your residence. In Jlem you get a spot in the multi story spots at Har Hamenuchos.

Most Israeli chareidim pay for better.
don't think a "chutnik" can buy anything in J'lem anymore. Beit Shemesh is where it's at

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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2019, 10:14:35 AM »
A family is looking to start a new Gemach. They have funding, but not much time or space for it. Any suggestions?
Feel free to PM, if you don't want to post.
There are a few askonim who arranged a $2k vort package. There is a choice of 2 halls and includes everything including some hot food, photography and one man band.

I believe this can be cut further:

LABOR: Skip the party planner and use low wage workers (or volunteers ie High School chesed) for setup and cleanup. Mexicans can be trained, someone may just need to stop in for quality control.

FOOD: "Shalom Zachor express" type system for the food. Someone needs to locate the most economical vendors. The prices on specialty cakes can vary drastically. The gemach can guarantee x amount of orders.

PHOTO: Only do 1 hour or skip entirely. If the gemach guarantees x amount of bookings perhaps he can give a better deal.

HALL: Perhaps newer halls would take a price reduction if someone guarantees them to be 80% booked up. (That's where gemach comes in)

MUSIC: It's a little awkward without music. But there are plenty of Bochurim happy to do it for $60.


Hardest part is getting people to actually utilize the service. As in the failure of the "L" bus, people need to be trained in to participating. That would mean contacting people and asking them to please use the service.

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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #62 on: February 15, 2019, 10:26:25 AM »
don't think a "chutnik" can buy anything in J'lem anymore. Beit Shemesh is where it's at

Depends who you know. And one can always change my "Chutznik" status with moving to Israel towards the end.

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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #63 on: February 15, 2019, 10:41:16 AM »
Depends who you know. And one can always change my "Chutznik" status with moving to Israel towards the end.
true...a rav in my neighborhood moved in his 80s because he didn't want to go as cargo

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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #64 on: February 15, 2019, 10:56:42 AM »
Interesting.  But so they have a choice of cemetary?
No. Only time you get a choice of city of free burial in Israel is if one dies in a different city than where they reside, a long as it's not in a hospital. I am talking from personal experience within my family that allowed for a better choice.
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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2019, 08:39:54 PM »
Um, they "want" to be buried in Israel? That's an expensive luxury, if you can't afford, stay in America. If it was good for you in life it's good in death too.

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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #66 on: February 17, 2019, 07:35:37 PM »
I would consider opening a gemach in another community. Lakewood has the highest gemachs per capita [citation needed] of any frum community and any conceivable gemach has already been established.

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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #67 on: February 17, 2019, 10:45:29 PM »
I would consider opening a gemach in another community. Lakewood has the highest gemachs per capita [citation needed] of any frum community and any conceivable gemach has already been established.
There is some truth to this but there’s always room for more chesed and obviously the gemach you open needs to be where you live :)
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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #68 on: February 18, 2019, 12:15:07 PM »
Say what?

E Israel is not a land of the dead, it's a land of the living.

This is literally the one thing both Satmar and the Zionists agree on.

Satmar- because of this pasuk, explained by R Yechezkel Shiniever as a source not to shlep the dead to E Israel.

Zionists - Bring me your living and build my land, don't dump me your dead and fill up my cemeteries.

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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #69 on: February 18, 2019, 12:16:18 PM »
Seemingly, most frum Jews feel differently.

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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #70 on: February 18, 2019, 12:17:27 PM »
Seemingly, most frum Jews feel differently.

Correct! Also, most frum jews don't identify themselves as Satmar, or as Zionists.

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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #71 on: February 18, 2019, 03:17:33 PM »
E Israel is not a land of the dead, it's a land of the living.

This is literally the one thing both Satmar and the Zionists agree on.

Satmar- because of this pasuk, explained by R Yechezkel Shiniever as a source not to shlep the dead to E Israel.

Zionists - Bring me your living and build my land, don't dump me your dead and fill up my cemeteries.
See the gemara near the end of Kesubos.. pretty rough stuff if you're not buried there
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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #72 on: February 24, 2019, 08:55:33 PM »
How about a gmach to help those in credit card debt?

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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #73 on: February 24, 2019, 09:40:33 PM »
How about a gmach to help those in credit card debt?
How would the gemach help them? Many gemachs ask about cc debt and won't lend to someone who has and for good reason.
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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #74 on: February 24, 2019, 09:58:14 PM »
How would the gemach help them? Many gemachs ask about cc debt and won't lend to someone who has and for good reason.

He must mean

Unless it doles out sense instead of cents.
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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #75 on: February 24, 2019, 10:02:07 PM »
He must mean

There is an organization which helps with that already although they are underfunded.
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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #76 on: February 24, 2019, 10:23:08 PM »
i meant for the people who lent out their credit lines and were hurt

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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #77 on: February 25, 2019, 12:56:25 AM »
There is an organization which helps with that already although they are underfunded.
What organization?
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Re: What kind of Gemach is needed (in Lakewood)?
« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2019, 09:18:40 AM »
Any Gemach lends out Doonas?