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Re: Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #60 on: March 04, 2019, 03:28:13 PM »
So it's bad to knock off 9% but totally reasonable  to knock off 10% for a cash payment demand?

Any discount is fine as long as taxes are charged on the (reduced) price.

Asking the Department of Motor Vehicles to not charge you tax on a cash transaction is another story. 

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Re: Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #61 on: March 04, 2019, 03:29:39 PM »
Any discount is fine as long as taxes are charged on the (reduced) price.
Lol, you think they were going to pay sales tax on a cash transaction?
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Re: Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #62 on: March 04, 2019, 03:35:10 PM »
He said he could knock 10% off if I paid cash.
Were you able to tell him  that you are getting more than 10 percent back using cc

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Re: Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #63 on: March 04, 2019, 03:40:12 PM »
You make a mistake (albeit one that is not uncommon): you conflate breach of contract with breach of the law.

Breaching a contract is not unlawful, it simply subjects you to whatever liability you contractually agreed to incur (whether expressly or otherwise).  By way of example, if I agree to sell you 100 widgets at $100 per piece, but then I find another buyer at $1,000 per piece, I can -- not unlawfully -- choose to not sell to you, with the knowledge and understanding that I am subjecting myself to certain liability to you (which will vary by contract).  I will not become a suspect in a criminal investigation simply because I decided to not sell to you.

In short, one can remain a "very lovely great" person even if they decide to breach a contract.

[This is not to be construed as legal advice, for which you should seek a competent attorney.]

So it's not illegal, but isn't it unethical? From a layman's perspective I'd suppose the contract signifies both parties' intent to move forward with the transaction. The liability stated in the contract, for when each of the parties breach their side of the agreement, is their exposure were they to renege on the agreement, and the extent to which the other party can seek recourse.

I wouldn't assume that ethically I'm 100% entitled to breach contract unilaterally and tell the other party to "sue me!".

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Re: Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #64 on: March 04, 2019, 03:40:40 PM »
Lol, you think they were going to pay sales tax on a cash transaction?

Sure, if you buy gas with cash

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Re: Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #65 on: March 04, 2019, 03:55:13 PM »
Mods, can we split off this thread and move all of these posts to the new topic?

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Re: Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #68 on: March 04, 2019, 04:18:37 PM »
Good grief, where did they find a 16 year old picture of me?
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Re: Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #69 on: March 04, 2019, 04:20:08 PM »
Good grief, where did they find a 16 year old picture of me?
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Re: Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #70 on: March 04, 2019, 04:23:57 PM »
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Re: Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #71 on: March 04, 2019, 04:25:13 PM »
Good grief, where did they find a 16 year old picture of me?

you look the same

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Re: Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #72 on: March 04, 2019, 04:50:36 PM »
A lot of Twerski seeming to want to frame the victims as “investors” and Dan setting the record straight that these were not investors; they were plain and simple victims. Thanks Dan for setting that straight.

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Re: Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #73 on: March 04, 2019, 05:22:08 PM »
Lol, you think they were going to pay sales tax on a cash transaction?
Maybe, maybe not, but giving a better price on cash is common practice.
I was in court last week for a speeding ticket potentially costing me 4 points on my license, after the judge agreed to settle and convert my ticket to a 0 point $250 non-moving violation, the clerk turns to me and says “I recommend you pay with cash, because with credit card we have to charge you more”.. mind you, the judge sat right there and nodded along in agreement, I doubt the judge and his clerk were colluding in some shady business..

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Re: Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #74 on: March 04, 2019, 05:27:03 PM »
Maybe, maybe not, but giving a better price on cash is common practice.
I was in court last week for a speeding ticket potentially costing me 4 points on my license, after the judge agreed to settle and convert my ticket to a 0 point $250 non-moving violation, the clerk turns to me and says “I recommend you pay with cash, because with credit card we have to charge you more”.. mind you, the judge sat right there and nodded along in agreement, I doubt the judge and his clerk were colluding in some shady business..
That's because there's CC processing fees, same with the IRS.