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Re: Shabbos Bottle Opener
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2019, 07:30:51 PM »
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On a visit to EY I once heard a Halacha radio program where callers would call up to ask Shaalos from a Moreh Horaah. A yungerman called and asked about a situation where his wife might go into labor on Shabbos, but prefers a more distant hospital, and in addition needs/wants her mother to be along with her. Amongst the various responses given to various details and followup questions was that the Nissan Leaf (or it's Renault brand equivalent) doesn't involve דאורייתא. IINM that was around before Tesla came about.
Tesla is the oldest 'modern' electric vehicle. Maybe he meant it as a stand in the for EV (like Kleenex for tissues).

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Re: Shabbos Bottle Opener
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2019, 08:57:56 PM »
Your saying this with sarcasm while you give it a few years and you won't believe it.
   

   But on a serious note lihalacha there is nothing wrong with something that has no issur at all and 100% permissible to do, for example eating cake and cookies on pesach which are not chometz or turning on a light on shabbos which has no issur at all.
 And now opening bottles in a permissible way, it's the same for example if we only knew of toilet paper that was in a roll  without the perforated sheets and now all the sudden someone came out with preforated shabbos tissues of toilet paper no need to have to rip it before shabbos.

 Bh that there's new ways for one to enjoy a shabbos without being oiver on any issurim.
You can still have a problem of uvda d'chol.
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Re: Shabbos Bottle Opener
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2019, 11:00:04 PM »
You can still have a problem of uvda d'chol.

R Moshe has a famous tshuva on shabbos clocks called “zillusa dishabbos” meaning even if it avoids any technical halachic problem it can still be assur because of “zillusa dishabbos”. If I remember correctly he was referring to shabbos timers in general (it should be noted that he differentiated between different instances and permitted in certain applications.)

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Re: Shabbos Bottle Opener
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2019, 11:35:44 PM »
R Moshe has a famous tshuva on shabbos clocks called “zillusa dishabbos” meaning even if it avoids any technical halachic problem it can still be assur because of “zillusa dishabbos”. If I remember correctly he was referring to shabbos timers in general (it should be noted that he differentiated between different instances and permitted in certain applications.)

The accepted minhag is not like Rav Moshe regarding shabbos timers...

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Re: Shabbos Bottle Opener
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2019, 12:10:52 AM »
I like how this thread is, for the moment, more active than the PSA thread ;D

Gotta know how to open those bottles shabbos is coming!
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Re: Shabbos Bottle Opener
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2019, 12:51:36 AM »
Just tried it one, here is a quick review.

Is made if high quality plastic, should last.
Was easy to open, easier than the video posted on the website.
Worthwhile investment if you usually open up bottles before Shabbos. Don’t have to worry about that anymore.
Even for those that are makil now, for a few bucks you can take upon a nice chumra of shmeiras Shabbos.
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Re: Shabbos Bottle Opener
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2019, 01:20:59 AM »
Just tried it one, here is a quick review.

Is made if high quality plastic, should last.
Was easy to open, easier than the video posted on the website.
Worthwhile investment if you usually open up bottles before Shabbos. Don’t have to worry about that anymore.
Even for those that are makil now, for a few bucks you can take upon a nice chumra of shmeiras Shabbos.
I'm not that well versed in the sugya but afaik it's not necessarily a chumra vs a kula, it's a differentiation in how you view certain "keilim" and how you pasken.
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Re: Shabbos Bottle Opener
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2019, 01:22:35 AM »
now that he put it on YouTube the soda companies will need to redesign the covers because there is no more safety seal since u can close it up without breaking the seal

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Re: Shabbos Bottle Opener
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2019, 01:24:47 AM »
now that he put it on YouTube the soda companies will need to redesign the covers because there is no more safety seal since u can close it up without breaking the seal
Uh, no.
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Re: Shabbos Bottle Opener
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2019, 03:11:59 AM »


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On a visit to EY I once heard a Halacha radio program where callers would call up to ask Shaalos from a Moreh Horaah. A yungerman called and asked about a situation where his wife might go into labor on Shabbos, but prefers a more distant hospital, and in addition needs/wants her mother to be along with her. Amongst the various responses given to various details and followup questions was that the Nissan Leaf (or it's Renault brand equivalent) doesn't involve דאורייתא. IINM that was around before Tesla came about.

We are talking about cars, not golf carts.
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Re: Shabbos Bottle Opener
« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2019, 08:38:45 AM »
The accepted Halacha  is not like Rav Moshe regarding shabbos timers...

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