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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order?
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2019, 08:46:43 PM »
Reminds me of the story with R Shmuel Munkes....
Good one..

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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order
« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2019, 08:55:53 PM »
Chabad is so self centered, it’s shocking.
Are you makpid on Beis Yosef ?
some people just dont change.
I just went to check the aforementioned website to read the comments.
I am horrified !! When Chabad people talk , They write “this is a Chilul Lubavitch”
How low of a people to switch the term Chilul Hashem for Chilul Lubavitch.
You switch Hashems Honor for Lubavitch ?? 
Of course Moshiach won’t come ! I am disgusted
Can. You. Just. Stop.
You , my dear Sir, are an Idiot!
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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order?
« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2019, 09:03:58 PM »
I'll preface this by saying I don't really know that much about shechita but I am curious as to what "lubavitch shechita" is, does it have anything to do with bedika and the machlokes S"A and Rama or is chumros on other things?
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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order
« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2019, 09:07:46 PM »
Here is a wonderful Yid who cares about Halacha so much He will either go without meat or uses a private Shochet . So the obvious question is , tell us more ? What about Beis Yosef ? Melicha standards ? Bedikos ? Etc
But instead he goes off the rails and starts hiding behind Chabad !
Oh I am sorry , I mistakenly thought You were a God Fearing Yid who did his own research. Turns out it’s all about being very CHABAD. 
What a let down
There are things I'm careful about that I'm not on top of all the details. I rely on someone I trust to keep on top of it. 
I pick a financial advisor and then let him do his thing with my money (to an extent).
I choose a builder and then he builds my house.  I don't have to know engineering, design or have taste.  He takes care of it for me.


I can choose an erliche, reputable shochet and rely on him to be on top of all the applicable halachos and chumras - and I don't have to know them.
By relying on an expert to know which aspects of meat preparation is important, ExGingi is doing it right.

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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order?
« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2019, 09:24:00 PM »
I'll preface this by saying I don't really know that much about shechita but I am curious as to what "lubavitch shechita" is, does it have anything to do with bedika and the machlokes S"A and Rama or is chumros on other things?
No. It has to do with who the Shochet is.

I can choose an erliche, reputable shochet and rely on him to be on top of all the applicable halachos and chumras - and I don't have to know them.
Couldn’t have said it better myself (will just add that I personally known the shochet, and would trust him blindly).
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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order
« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2019, 09:25:37 PM »
is this prime?
I am told that it’s black Angus cows. Grading occurs after slaughtering, but should generally grade high.
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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order
« Reply #46 on: March 06, 2019, 09:34:23 PM »
I am told that it’s black Angus cows. Grading occurs after slaughtering, but should generally grade high.
Grass fed?

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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order?
« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2019, 09:49:27 PM »
I am told that it’s black Angus cows. Grading occurs after slaughtering, but should generally grade high.
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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order?
« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2019, 09:56:47 PM »
It's a desired chumra. But my desire for meat supersedes it.
I know a non-chabad shochet if you are interested. However, I cannot guarantee that he doesn't learn Tanya or the like in secret.

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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order?
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2019, 10:03:16 PM »
I know a non-chabad shochet if you are interested. However, I cannot guarantee that he doesn't learn Tanya or the like in secret.
Yeah,it's really tough. You can never be too sure.

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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order?
« Reply #50 on: March 06, 2019, 10:15:11 PM »
I know a non-chabad shochet if you are interested. However, I cannot guarantee that he doesn't learn Tanya or the like in secret.
As long as he skips פרק לב and the parts that speak about יחודו ית׳ I think CBC will be OK with that.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2019, 10:39:34 PM by ExGingi »
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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order?
« Reply #51 on: March 06, 2019, 10:29:19 PM »
As long as he skips פרק לב and the parts that speak about יחוד ית׳ I think CBC will be OK with that.

But I think he learns פרק ל״ז in
Likutei Maharan about the שוחט being מעלה the נפש that is in the דם הבהמה בגלגול. Does that work for you?

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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order?
« Reply #52 on: March 06, 2019, 11:35:18 PM »
(will just add that I personally known the shochet, and would trust him blindly).
Would you let him swipe your cards? ;)

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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order?
« Reply #53 on: March 06, 2019, 11:37:34 PM »
Would you let him swipe your cards? ;)

Would you let your Rav? Didn’t think so.

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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order?
« Reply #54 on: March 06, 2019, 11:54:43 PM »
Would you let your Rav? Didn’t think so.
Yes. Get a new rav.
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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order?
« Reply #55 on: March 07, 2019, 12:14:21 AM »
Would you let your Rav? Didn’t think so.
If I trusted him blindly I would.

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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order?
« Reply #56 on: March 07, 2019, 12:21:02 AM »
If I trusted him blindly I would.
if you trust him for your sheilos that have ramifications beyond the realm of what we could possibly understand then you sure better trust him for lesser matters...

ETA: but as I think about it I actually think the opposite a little-when a rav paskens it kind of becomes his ‘problem’ so to speak . It’s our job to get Halachik guidelines from a Rav who knows the Halachah and it becomes his achrayus. Which has nothing to do trusting him personally.

I hear both sides
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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order?
« Reply #57 on: March 07, 2019, 12:21:59 AM »
Back to the original OP question:
What cuts of meat should he order?


If you have the money and freezer space, get a whole side.  Assuming it's a better price that way and a great price over all. Also, since  you don't always have access to meat, you should probably get a lot.
With a side, you'll get to try out different cuts and have variety in your menu.


Another way to decide:  Look at your menu / make a menu and see what types of meat you tend to use and in what quantities.

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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order?
« Reply #58 on: March 07, 2019, 12:29:44 AM »
If I trusted him blindly I would.

Then you are naive. I trust my Rav that he won’t run off with my money. I don’t trust him that he has infallible business acumen and will not run into financial difficulty or have a sudden great financial loss and be unable to pay back what he swiped. It has happened to many good people and being a Rav doesn’t make him immune, stories of Rav Yisroel Salanter asking to borrow money from the guy who asked him to do a shechita for him notwithstanding

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Re: Private Shechita - what should I order?
« Reply #59 on: March 07, 2019, 06:35:45 AM »
Back to the original OP question:
What cuts of meat should he order?


If you have the money and freezer space, get a whole side.  Assuming it's a better price that way and a great price over all. Also, since  you don't always have access to meat, you should probably get a lot.
With a side, you'll get to try out different cuts and have variety in your menu.

Thanks for the meaningful response. Followup question is how should I request it to be cut?

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Another way to decide:  Look at your menu / make a menu and see what types of meat you tend to use and in what quantities.
Not very practical as I don't really "tend to use" much meat. DW likes French Roast and minute steak as she's comfortable cooking those in a way that the entire family (more or less) enjoys. The question is what about the rest? How should I have it butchered? What might work out best (maybe we could dedicate something to a DO on my back porch).
« Last Edit: March 07, 2019, 08:54:09 AM by ExGingi »
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