Poll

Who are you leaning towards?

Likud
5 (17.2%)
Blue and White
0 (0%)
Shas
0 (0%)
Charedi Parties(UTJ Aguda)
15 (51.7%)
Labor
2 (6.9%)
Zeut
1 (3.4%)
Meretz
0 (0%)
Yisroel Bateinu
0 (0%)
New Right (Bennet, Shaked)
1 (3.4%)
Kahane Parties
5 (17.2%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: April 09, 2019, 05:19:44 AM

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1260 on: May 30, 2021, 11:12:49 AM »
It's not so clear he is out of the picture, but any half decent right wing alternative will do better than him for PM now.

Names?
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« Reply #1261 on: May 30, 2021, 11:13:12 AM »
I wasn't expressing any opinion, just bringing a factual example.
Lol. That wasn't the type of case he meant. Regardless, Bibi already did that after Barak. I guess that just wore off after a while and he needs a new "guy after the GUY" to be able to reclaim his position.
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« Reply #1262 on: May 30, 2021, 11:14:25 AM »
Names?
For someone meeting ANY of those criteria, forget about ALL.
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« Reply #1263 on: May 30, 2021, 11:15:30 AM »
Lol. That wasn't the type of case he meant. Regardless, Bibi already did that after Barak. I guess that just wore off after a while and he needs a new "guy after the GUY" to be able to reclaim his position.

Exactly (on everything you said). Didn't Putin do it twice? Or did he pull off some other trick (other than his most recent one amending the constitution).

Also Erdoğan did something similar IINM.
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« Reply #1264 on: May 30, 2021, 11:20:12 AM »
Exactly (on everything you said). Didn't Putin do it twice? Or did he pull off some other trick (other than his most recent one amending the constitution).

Also Erdoğan did something similar IINM.
Once we are talking about crazies. will Trump be next to pull this one off?
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« Reply #1265 on: May 30, 2021, 11:42:32 AM »
Names?
The whole point is there isnt any as of now. Thats why I'm interested in who will have a go at it. Barkat? Will Saar rejoin Likud if Bibi is out? Who knows.
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« Reply #1266 on: May 30, 2021, 11:45:24 AM »
The whole point is there isnt any as of now. Thats why I'm interested in who will have a go at it. Barkat? Will Saar rejoin Likud if Bibi is out? Who knows.

I would have thought that Barkat is the only half decent one, but I am not sure what the preannounced event he will be having is all about. Might tarnish him.
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« Reply #1267 on: May 30, 2021, 11:46:16 AM »
I would have thought that Barkat is the only half decent one, but I am not sure what the preannounced event he will be having is all about. Might tarnish him.
When what makes one half decent is not being a total schmuck you know things are bad. Can the guy speak a straight English?
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1268 on: May 30, 2021, 01:15:08 PM »
Can the guy speak a straight English?

Why is that a requirement?

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« Reply #1269 on: May 30, 2021, 01:16:24 PM »
Why is that a requirement?
Seriously?
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1270 on: May 30, 2021, 01:20:52 PM »
Seriously?

Yes. It certainly is a ma'aloh to have the PM able to represent the country in English, but it is completely typical to have someone else fill that role.

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« Reply #1271 on: May 30, 2021, 01:21:55 PM »
Yes. It certainly is a ma'aloh to have the PM able to represent the country in the US, but it is completely typical to have someone else fill that role.
It's not just in the US, and just bc it wasnt typical doesn't make it any better.
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« Reply #1272 on: May 30, 2021, 01:26:38 PM »
It's not just in the US, and just bc it wasnt typical doesn't make it any better.

1 - Changed my post to say "English" before I saw this

2 - I'm not saying that it shouldn't be a factor in choosing someone for the job, but it doesn't disqualify them automatically

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1273 on: May 30, 2021, 03:19:51 PM »
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1275 on: May 30, 2021, 06:02:55 PM »
Any chance that MKs in Bennett’s party jump ship rather than join the coalition?
1 definitely will (Amichai Shikli, said so publicly and didn't attend party meetings). All it takes is one more (unless portions of the Joint Arab List abstain). A second said he is considering resigning, but that gives his seat to somebody very loyal to Bennet.
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« Reply #1277 on: May 30, 2021, 08:29:29 PM »
1 definitely will (Amichai Shikli, said so publicly and didn't attend party meetings). All it takes is one more (unless portions of the Joint Arab List abstain). A second said he is considering resigning, but that gives his seat to somebody very loyal to Bennet.
I think there’s a law about that. If one leaves the party than Bennett picks a replacement but of a few leave then they can start their own party.


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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1278 on: May 30, 2021, 11:31:20 PM »
Breaking: Lapid-Bennett Coalition Splintering Over Platinum Guy Controversy

(Tel Aviv) A long-awaited agreement that would hail in a new government to end Benjamin Netanyahu's record shattering stint as Israeli Prime Minister may have been short lived, after a tentative deal between his two opponents is teetering at the brink over a controversy pertaining to the political position of one bellicose MK.

According to reports, the argument began after Yesh Atid chairman Yair Lapid made clear his intention to include Knesset Member Platinum Guy, popularly known as PG, on his slate, and to give him the position of Health Minister. Lapid's partner in the endeavor, Yeminah Party chairman Naftali Bennett, called the inclusion of the highly controversial politician a "deal-breaker," and he threatened end talks.

"Including the Arab parties was something I would be able stomach," Bennett said during a nationally televised address. "But to put Platinum Guy at the helm of the Health Ministry, where he would be able to implement his Faucinian Covid measures - that would constitute a betrayal of my supporters."

Lapid maintained that PG would be an optimal candidate for the job, citing his experience with public safety and his strong oversight on Covid numbers, in addition to his cozy relationship with many American Democrats, which could be a ticket to better relationships with the sponsor country overseas. But Bennett refused to concede.

"I may be able to look away from some of his rhetoric," Bennett stressed. "But he dislikes Ben Shapiro. That ends the discussion. Period."

While many pundits see this development as an insurmountable challenge to the coalition, some see it as a political stunt. An anonymous political operative shared that this step is just an elaborate ploy to engage members of a PAC to which PG belongs, known by its acronyms DDF, to take a greater interest in Israeli politics, and thus steer the country in the proper direction with their collective prowess and tact. Neither Bennett nor Lapid were available to comment on this report. (AP)

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1279 on: May 30, 2021, 11:38:16 PM »
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