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Who are you leaning towards?

Likud
5 (17.2%)
Blue and White
0 (0%)
Shas
0 (0%)
Charedi Parties(UTJ Aguda)
15 (51.7%)
Labor
2 (6.9%)
Zeut
1 (3.4%)
Meretz
0 (0%)
Yisroel Bateinu
0 (0%)
New Right (Bennet, Shaked)
1 (3.4%)
Kahane Parties
5 (17.2%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: April 09, 2019, 05:19:44 AM

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1280 on: May 30, 2021, 11:41:42 PM »
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Nice draft. :)

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1281 on: May 30, 2021, 11:42:44 PM »
Nice draft. :)

Need to include more of PG's accomplishments.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1282 on: May 31, 2021, 10:31:00 AM »
Bibbi has 3 potential outs

1. Defectors. Only 1 is needed if the whole JAL votes against, and a few are needed if some of the JAL abstain, which seems possible
2. Gantz. As it stands, Gantz likely automatically becomes PM in November. He has a lot to lose from a Bennet government that marginalizes him, but there is only so much he is willing to do to blunt it. He is still being very demanding to Lapid, while most of the other parties already closed.
3. United Arab List (Ra’am). Lapid needs the 4 UAL votes. It is well known Mansour Abbas prefers Bibbi, and he is only supporting Lapid because the resurfacing of the Palestinian issue drove his electorate away from his pro Israel party, and he’s afraid of not passing the entrance threshold in the next elections. Bibbi can solve that by attaching UAL to the Likud in a technical block, but that seems to be a move too extreme even for Netanyahu and/or Abbas.


I think there’s a law about that. If one leaves the party than Bennett picks a replacement but of a few leave then they can start their own party.
A single MK can vote against party lines (obviously) the difference is that they are penalized for it - cannot be appointed Minister, lose governmental campaign funding, and the ability to run for the next Kennset in certain configurations.

The key difference here is that Bibbi needs at least 3 Yamina defectors to be able to lure them with a prize such as placement in the Likud party or ministerial appointments

Orly Levi defected alone last time.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1283 on: May 31, 2021, 12:27:10 PM »
Israel police raises the threat level on Prime Minister-designate Bennet to 5, the second highest level.

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1284 on: May 31, 2021, 12:35:12 PM »
As per Amit Segal:

Ayelet Shaked demands getting a seat on the judicial appointment committee instead of Merav Michaeli as a pre-condition to joining the proposed coalition.

Kul Al Arab reports that MK Mazen Ghnaim of United Arab List he intends to vote against the Lapid-Bennet government. Segal is trying to reach him for comment. UAL is denying.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1285 on: May 31, 2021, 04:58:57 PM »
Fascinating interview with Bennet for a documentary Amit Segal did about Netanyahu:

https://t.me/amitsegal/12276
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1286 on: June 01, 2021, 12:58:47 AM »
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1290 on: June 01, 2021, 08:45:48 AM »
Bibbi has 3 potential outs....

2. Gantz. As it stands, Gantz likely automatically becomes PM in November. He has a lot to lose from a Bennet government that marginalizes him, but there is only so much he is willing to do to blunt it. He is still being very demanding to Lapid, while most of the other parties already closed.
Now Gantz is making a trip to Washington...
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1291 on: June 01, 2021, 11:48:00 AM »
Now Gantz is making a trip to Washington...
What is the interpretation of that?

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1292 on: June 01, 2021, 12:24:19 PM »
What is the interpretation of that?

From Abu Saleh (via Telegram):

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אמירותיו של נתניהו...

הרשתות האיראניות מתריסות כנגד הדברים שאמר נתניהו מהן ניתן להבין כי השיקול של ביטחון ישראל לעומת יחסנו עם ארה"ב גובר האחד על השני.

הרשת גועשת,
אתם (ישראל) תתחילו את המלחמה ואנחנו נסיים".

כמובן שנסיעתו הבהולה של גנץ לארה"ב גם הרימה להנחתה.

הערה

אנשים פשוט לא מבינים (כנראה)
מה קורה כאן.

ר"מ ישראל לא יכול ללחוץ על כפתור ולפתוח במלחמה, זה לא עובד ככה.

הסכנות החובקות את ישראל מצפון מדרום וממזרח הן חסרות תקדים מאז הוקמה מדינת ישראל.

הערכה פרועה שלי
גנץ מחר בנסיעה בהולה לארה"ב מין הסתם יכניסו אותו לחדר יושיבו אותו על כיסא ויגידו לו (כמו לילד קטן) אוי ואבוי לך אם תתקפו באיראן.

אבל זו רק התחושה שלי,
בארה"ב (כמו ברשתות הערביות) כנראה מבינים מכל ההצהרות האחרונות שיוצאות מישראל כי לא נשאר חול בשעון החול.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1293 on: June 01, 2021, 01:28:44 PM »
What is the interpretation of that?
He is going to schnorr $1B in munition replenishments that the Obama aid package allows (the anti semites!).
The timing can be a coincidence, an attempt to strengthen his negotiating position with an artificial deadline (remember the guys who forced Facebook to close on $16b for Whatsapp because of miles and more availability?), or an attempt to avoid committing to Lapid and using the trip as an excuse plus avoiding some of the pressure.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1294 on: June 02, 2021, 10:15:48 AM »
Best website (or Twitter handle) to follow the latest election/coalition news? Can be in Hebrew.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1295 on: June 02, 2021, 10:59:51 AM »
Yitzchak Herzog was elected as Israel’s eleventh president on Wednesday, winning 87 votes of the Knesset’s 120 MKs. Herzog soundly defeated Miriam Peretz, a much admired and beloved Israel Prize winner, educator, and social activist who lost two sons in the army and used her adversity to help others. Herzog was widely expected to win due to his many connections in the political world.

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1296 on: June 02, 2021, 11:21:13 AM »
Channel 12’s political commentator Amit Segal shares a photo of the document that would announce to the president that a government has been formed.

Three signatures of party leaders currently separate between Yair Lapid and success in doing so: those of Naftali Bennett of Yamina, Gideon Sa’ar of New Hope and Mansour Abbas of Ra’am.



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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1297 on: June 02, 2021, 11:21:23 AM »
Yitzchak Herzog was elected as Israel’s eleventh president on Wednesday, winning 87 votes of the Knesset’s 120 MKs. Herzog soundly defeated Miriam Peretz, a much admired and beloved Israel Prize winner, educator, and social activist who lost two sons in the army and used her adversity to help others. Mrs. Peretz didn’t have any political experience or skills. Herzog was widely expected to win due to his many connections in the political world.

FTFY

(she was a straw candidate just so that parallels to the elections just held at Israel’s northeastern neighbor aren’t drawn. Herzog was uncontested). 
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« Reply #1298 on: June 02, 2021, 11:27:50 AM »
Channel 12’s political commentator Amit Segal shares a photo of the document that would announce to the president that a government has been formed.

Three signatures of party leaders currently separate between Yair Lapid and success in doing so: those of Naftali Bennett of Yamina, Gideon Sa’ar of New Hope and Mansour Abbas of Ra’am.


Going around on WA:

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מי עדיף כשר החקלאות לקראת שנת השמיטה
האם בנט כי המצע שלו מנותק,
או מחמוד עבאס כי גם ככה מוכרים לו את המדינה?😳

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