Poll

Who are you leaning towards?

Likud
5 (17.2%)
Blue and White
0 (0%)
Shas
0 (0%)
Charedi Parties(UTJ Aguda)
15 (51.7%)
Labor
2 (6.9%)
Zeut
1 (3.4%)
Meretz
0 (0%)
Yisroel Bateinu
0 (0%)
New Right (Bennet, Shaked)
1 (3.4%)
Kahane Parties
5 (17.2%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: April 09, 2019, 05:19:44 AM

Author Topic: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)  (Read 102499 times)

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2019, 04:30:49 PM »
The seemingly צד השווה of Bennet and Feiglin/Zehut is that they rely solely on their own judgment, rather than submitting to a Halachic authority. (which is similar to the underlying problem of Zionism which is based on כוחי ועוצם ידי, but that's a separate issue).

And Bibi does? :o

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2019, 04:42:56 PM »
And Bibi does? :o

No. Which is why Torah observant Jews shouldn't be voting for him, but due to his qualifications, the parties that do submit to Halachic authorities should support him.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2019, 08:36:23 PM »


but due to his qualifications, the parties that do submit to Halachic authorities should support him.
LOL his qualification is that he has longevity, which is an absurd reason to back him,
In fact the only reason people vote for him the pathetic reason they there's no one better. Basically fear of the unknown is why people vote for him, again a recipe for disaster because one day it'll be more convenient to sell out the Left/charedim & he'll have no problem in doing so.

The man has no spine all he's interested is staying in power.

People forget that he was the one that gave back a tremendous amount of land at
the Wye Accords

Do you really see him saying no to Trump if the deal he presents is bad.
I don't.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2019, 03:06:09 PM »
No. Which is why Torah observant Jews shouldn't be voting for him, but due to his qualifications, the parties that do submit to Halachic authorities should support him.

Should we have also supported David Ben-Gurion due to his qualifications?

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2019, 11:21:28 AM »
Should we have also supported David Ben-Gurion due to his qualifications?
IDK. Wasn't around in his time.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2019, 11:21:43 AM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2019, 12:40:30 PM »
If you can read Hebrew, then read http://www.news1.co.il/Archive/003-D-133146-00.html which will shed some light on the types of accusations fielded and the facts behind them.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2019, 06:03:57 PM »
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2019, 12:33:09 AM »
What a great ad! If you don’t want to watch the video (or your filter blocks it) the article has a transcript. Don’t have to support the party but just a great political ad:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/44847/israeli-justice-minister-hank-berrien

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2019, 12:09:33 PM »
I dont know what anyone sees in him anymore, he reminds me of Ehud Barak, who also didnt know when to quit until the writing was all over the wall.

https://www.maariv.co.il/journalists/opinions/Article-690718

Can't say I agree with everything this guy writes, but the main point is in the last few paragraphs, which IMNSHO, are indisputable (except for the very last one, which goes into predictions that I would rather avoid, as there's a lot that doesn't even depend on the Israeli leader himself).
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2019, 02:27:12 PM »
LOL his qualification is that he has longevity, which is an absurd reason to back him,
In fact the only reason people vote for him the pathetic reason they there's no one better. Basically fear of the unknown is why people vote for him, again a recipe for disaster because one day it'll be more convenient to sell out the Left/charedim & he'll have no problem in doing so.

The man has no spine all he's interested is staying in power.

People forget that he was the one that gave back a tremendous amount of land at
the Wye Accords

Do you really see him saying no to Trump if the deal he presents is bad.
I don't.

Check out the video on YouTube.com Never saw such comments before.


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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2019, 11:28:39 AM »
Anyone have some predictions??

I think Bibi is going to lose to Gantz by at least 6-7 seats.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2019, 11:38:55 AM »
Anyone have some predictions??

I think Bibi is going to lose to Gantz by at least 6-7 seats.

I have no clue what will happen on a national level, though I do think Bibi will remain Prime Minister, the only question is at what cost and how hard will he have to work to piece together a coalition.

What intrigues me the most and where I am willing to make a guess, knowing that I will probably be wrong, is how the vote in Kfar Chabad will split up. For that I guess we will see 55%-65% Aguda, 30%-40% Ichud Yemin, 3%-7% Shas, 1%-4% Zehut.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2019, 12:01:45 PM »
I have no clue what will happen on a national level, though I do think Bibi will remain Prime Minister, the only question is at what cost and how hard will he have to work to piece together a coalition.

What intrigues me the most and where I am willing to make a guess, knowing that I will probably be wrong, is how the vote in Kfar Chabad will split up. For that I guess we will see 55%-65% Aguda, 30%-40% Ichud Yemin, 3%-7% Shas, 1%-4% Zehut.

Zehut will be a lot higher then you expect.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2019, 12:02:47 PM »
Interesting tweet from Bibi -
From earlier this morning in the US (about 12 noon in Israel). Bibi went to the beach to convince people to go vote, that he's losing to Lapid and Gantz.

Even if Bibi gets the lower end of polls at 25-26, and Gantz gets 30+ - can Gantz really get a coalition together? and with whom?

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2019, 12:57:38 PM »
Zehut will be a lot higher then you expect.

What do you know about Kfar Chabad that makes you think so?

IMHO those that will vote for Zehut in Kfar Chabad would mostly be OTD (or rebellious but not considered OTD) youngsters, and a handful of others.

I might be wrong, and I don't claim to have a crystal ball, or to even be able to guess things on a national level. But I do get some wind of what goes on within Kfar Chabad where I have family and friends.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2019, 12:59:40 PM »
What do you know about Kfar Chabad that makes you think so?

I might be wrong, and I don't claim to have a crystal ball, or to even be able to guess things on a national level. But I do get some wind of what goes on within Kfar Chabad where I have family and friends.

Sorry, I meant in the general elections...

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2019, 01:03:09 PM »
Sorry, I meant in the general elections...
I sincerely hope they get a lot less than expected based on polls, though once a party is in, then IINM they get at least 3 MK's, which in this case would include the highly problematic Amsalem.
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