Poll

Who are you leaning towards?

Likud
5 (17.2%)
Blue and White
0 (0%)
Shas
0 (0%)
Charedi Parties(UTJ Aguda)
15 (51.7%)
Labor
2 (6.9%)
Zeut
1 (3.4%)
Meretz
0 (0%)
Yisroel Bateinu
0 (0%)
New Right (Bennet, Shaked)
1 (3.4%)
Kahane Parties
5 (17.2%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: April 09, 2019, 05:19:44 AM

Author Topic: 2019 Israeli election  (Read 6772 times)

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #75 on: April 09, 2019, 08:12:01 PM »
Can someone explain, how this election helps anything? The previous government was vary narrow with approx 66 seats. Lieberman "quit" so a few months later Bibi called for new elections.
Wont it be the same way now all over again?
Bibi will create "right" government with the same narrow coalition, and then again Lieberman can bolt in a few months and were right back to were we were.

It definitely helps with the greater numbers of Shas and UTJ (with Shas pre-pledging support for Netanyahu, which wasn't that obvious in the past. Maybe UTJ should learn from them and make a similar pledge in the future).
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #76 on: April 09, 2019, 08:51:27 PM »
It definitely helps with the greater numbers of Shas and UTJ (with Shas pre-pledging support for Netanyahu, which wasn't that obvious in the past. Maybe UTJ should learn from them and make a similar pledge in the future).

Im pretty sure I remember seeing ג did pledge for Bibi. They for sure said that they would never sit in a coalition with Lapid.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #77 on: April 09, 2019, 08:57:31 PM »
Who won?

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #78 on: April 09, 2019, 09:01:48 PM »
Who won?
Looks like netanyahu is slightly ahead of gantz, and right wing Bloc has the majority of seats

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #79 on: April 09, 2019, 09:04:14 PM »
Im pretty sure I remember seeing ג did pledge for Bibi. They for sure said that they would never sit in a coalition with Lapid.
They definitely said Lapid is a non-starter, but they didn't put Bibi in the center of their campaign like Shas did. Had they done so, maybe they would have got more votes in Kfar Chabad and Beitar (amongst other places) rather than people voting Likud.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #80 on: April 09, 2019, 11:35:33 PM »
They definitely said Lapid is a non-starter, but they didn't put Bibi in the center of their campaign like Shas did. Had they done so, maybe they would have got more votes in Kfar Chabad and Beitar (amongst other places) rather than people voting Likud.
Who do chabad officially vote for?

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #81 on: April 09, 2019, 11:37:11 PM »
Who do chabad officially vote for?

I guess with certain developments in recent years that went counter to the Rebbe's instructions, I should have predicted more of a vote which cannot be aligned with the Rebbe's directive to vote for המפלגה החרדית ביותר. Very unfortunate.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #82 on: April 09, 2019, 11:37:23 PM »
Would anyone know where I could find info on the litvishe shita on the state of Israel in general and specifically voting?
 I was shmoozing with a friend today and he was all upset about what satmer is doing now with their asifa in The stadium this week and their ads that they put out, saying that Torah Jews donít believe in the zionist state. He was saying how itís a chillul Hashem. So I answered him that the truth is, that our (litvishe/yeshivish) shita is much closer to what satmer holds than to what Netanyahu ( or more correctly the zionists of old) holds. And he was shocked, but I think Iím right. Does anyone know of any books or a website that would explain it?

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #83 on: April 09, 2019, 11:47:09 PM »
Who do chabad officially vote for?

With one historical exception (in which the Rebbe instructed to support UTJ), the Rebbe's instructions have always been for individuals to vote for מפלגה החרדית ביותר, and that Chabad doesn't endorse any party.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #84 on: April 10, 2019, 12:20:30 AM »
the problem with some is that they side with Arabs against Jews other then that we never believed the Zionism is the correct path, although today's generation is much different as most of them are tinokos shenishbu.

someone once asked rav oirbach if they should protest with the arabs he responded CH'V the arabs protest the little bit of yiddishkeit that they have while we protest the lack of yiddishkeit

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #85 on: April 10, 2019, 12:26:21 AM »
It definitely helps with the greater numbers of Shas and UTJ (with Shas pre-pledging support for Netanyahu, which wasn't that obvious in the past. Maybe UTJ should learn from them and make a similar pledge in the future).
From https://www.jpost.com/Israel-Elections/Gantz-beats-Netanyahu-with-largest-number-of-seats-coalition-unclear-586230
President Reuven Rivlin will meet with the heads of the parties that cross the threshold next week. Shas, UTJ and URP announced late Tuesday that they would recommend Netanyahu to form the government. Kahlon and Yisrael Beytenu leader Avigdor Liberman said they would wait for the final results.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #86 on: April 10, 2019, 12:30:56 AM »
Would anyone know where I could find info on the litvishe shita on the state of Israel in general and specifically voting?
 I was shmoozing with a friend today and he was all upset about what satmer is doing now with their asifa in The stadium this week and their ads that they put out, saying that Torah Jews donít believe in the zionist state. He was saying how itís a chillul Hashem. So I answered him that the truth is, that our (litvishe/yeshivish) shita is much closer to what satmer holds than to what Netanyahu ( or more correctly the zionists of old) holds. And he was shocked, but I think Iím right. Does anyone know of any books or a website that would explain it?
R' Reuven Grozovsky and R' Elchonon both have plenty written on the topic.

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2019 Israeli election
« Reply #87 on: April 10, 2019, 12:36:09 AM »
From https://www.jpost.com/Israel-Elections/Gantz-beats-Netanyahu-with-largest-number-of-seats-coalition-unclear-586230
President Reuven Rivlin will meet with the heads of the parties that cross the threshold next week. Shas, UTJ and URP announced late Tuesday that they would recommend Netanyahu to form the government. Kahlon and Yisrael Beytenu leader Avigdor Liberman said they would wait for the final results.
Announcing this after the election, or even a couple of days before, isnít enough to calm and convince the base that they wouldnít sell out to Gantz if the opportunity presented itself (especially when some of the MKs such as Gafni and Eichler are perceived as left wingers).

Contrast this with Deri who knew that his base unequivocally wants Bibi as PM, so he campaigned under the banner of Shas supporting Netanyahu for PM, telling people that by voting for Shas they get two benefits for the price of one, they get the Shas social agenda with absolute support for Bibi as PM.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #88 on: April 10, 2019, 01:12:22 AM »

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #89 on: April 10, 2019, 01:14:26 AM »
Would anyone know where I could find info on the litvishe shita on the state of Israel in general and specifically voting?
 I was shmoozing with a friend today and he was all upset about what satmer is doing now with their asifa in The stadium this week and their ads that they put out, saying that Torah Jews donít believe in the zionist state. He was saying how itís a chillul Hashem. So I answered him that the truth is, that our (litvishe/yeshivish) shita is much closer to what satmer holds than to what Netanyahu ( or more correctly the zionists of old) holds. And he was shocked, but I think Iím right. Does anyone know of any books or a website that would explain it?
There was a book published recently called ďThe Empty WagonĒ. I didnít read it but I heard itís excellent and very extensive.