Total Members Voted: 29
Voting closed: April 09, 2019, 05:19:44 AM
https://www.amazon.com/Empty-Wagon-Zionisms-journey-identity/dp/1642555541I haven't read it,but my impression is that he had an agenda to marry the litvish hashkofa with satmar.So in reality he's probably 80% accurate and 20% satmar influence. Not the pure hashkofa.
Would anyone know where I could find info on the litvishe shita on the state of Israel in general and specifically voting? I was shmoozing with a friend today and he was all upset about what satmer is doing now with their asifa in The stadium this week and their ads that they put out, saying that Torah Jews don’t believe in the zionist state. He was saying how it’s a chillul Hashem. So I answered him that the truth is, that our (litvishe/yeshivish) shita is much closer to what satmer holds than to what Netanyahu ( or more correctly the zionists of old) holds. And he was shocked, but I think I’m right. Does anyone know of any books or a website that would explain it?
So who generally is the מפלגה החרדית ביותר that you are saying UTJ was the exception?
The exception was publicly and officially supporting a specific party, rather than leaving it to individual judgment, which is based on subjective opinions. I have no doubt in my mind that if Gafni and Eichler weren't in the UTJ list, UTJ would get a much larger portion of the Kfar Chabad vote.
The exception was publicly and officially supporting a specific party, rather than leaving it to individual judgment, which is based on subjective opinions. I have no doubt in my mind that if Gafni and Eichler weren't in the UTJ list, UTJ would get a much larger portion of the Kfar Chabad vote.Some of the logic used, is that a true חרדי would know that פיקוח נפש goes ahead of many other things, and supporting a left wing government (or agenda of appeasement) is regarded as Pikuach Nefesh.
As for the New Right, they didn't really put forth a compelling story. They are seen as spineless opportunistic troublemakers that eventually do the right thing.
AP dead or Obi dead?
So Shas?
I think my friend would only be able to read it if it’s in English
Chabad voting for mizrachists time and again with excuses, just obscures that their sympathies lie there and that's it. You have Satmar lunatics, Charedi mainstream, Chabad chardalim, and mizrachists.Back to work.....
B"H, now that we have a dose of sinas chinam this thread is a real Israeli election thread.
Look in the mirror.
Even worse from a shleimus ha'aretz perspective.
It would be a long stretch to call Shas מפלגה החרדית ביותר. Accepting ministerial positions, especially in the Ministry of Religious Affairs, or at the Ministry of Interior, presents very serious Halachic problems.
Aren't all of their decisions based on the psokim of their rabbonim? Is Rabbi Sholom Cohen (or Rabbi Ovadia Yosef) less charedi than the rabbonim of ג?
How's this for a possible scenario:Blue & White disintegrates, either entirely or into the 3 or 4 parts that united in order to form it, and some of those end up supporting a Netanyahu coalition, while Lieberman remains out.
All is possible. It's crucial for Charedim that Bennett passes with the military votes. He needs to get 5% among them.
I'm not so sure that is true. While Bennet is probably easier to deal with than Lieberman, he's a bit of a troublemaker for no good reason, and if he gets in with 4 or 5 seats (the difference in votes is minuscule) who loses?