Poll

Who are you leaning towards?

Likud
5 (17.2%)
Blue and White
0 (0%)
Shas
0 (0%)
Charedi Parties(UTJ Aguda)
15 (51.7%)
Labor
2 (6.9%)
Zeut
1 (3.4%)
Meretz
0 (0%)
Yisroel Bateinu
0 (0%)
New Right (Bennet, Shaked)
1 (3.4%)
Kahane Parties
5 (17.2%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: April 09, 2019, 05:19:44 AM

Author Topic: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)  (Read 102476 times)

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #140 on: April 12, 2019, 03:10:58 AM »
The new government will not last long. There's no way the charedim and Lieberman can sit together peacefully. And there's no coalition without them.

Unless Netanyahu can convince certain Blue and White MK's to move back to Likud...It is a real possibility and then he can leave Lieberman out. (He would only need 2-3

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #141 on: April 12, 2019, 08:44:16 AM »
Really hoping for Ben gvir!

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #142 on: April 12, 2019, 09:06:20 AM »
Really hoping for Ben gvir!

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #143 on: April 16, 2019, 06:11:52 AM »
Very curious what the % of Charedim actually vote in elections....UTJ getting 8 seats is I believe a record for them....What would happen if the Charedim voted the same as the national average would they not be over 10-12 seats?

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #144 on: April 16, 2019, 06:42:31 AM »
Very curious what the % of Charedim actually vote in elections....UTJ getting 8 seats is I believe a record for them....What would happen if the Charedim voted the same as the national average would they not be over 10-12 seats?
Charedim vote more than the national average. (Approx 75% vs 65%)
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #145 on: April 16, 2019, 06:53:30 AM »
Charedim vote more than the national average. (Approx 75% vs 65%)

How is that possible if most Chasidim do not vote (at least I assumed not)

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #146 on: April 16, 2019, 07:00:40 AM »
How is that possible if most Chasidim do not vote (at least I assumed not)
Sure they vote.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #147 on: April 16, 2019, 07:06:42 AM »
How is that possible if most Chasidim do not vote (at least I assumed not)
Most chassidim vote. Only a few sects do not

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #148 on: April 16, 2019, 08:36:12 AM »
How is that possible if most Chasidim do not vote (at least I assumed not)
What would make you assume that when the following (large) sects are actually members of UTJ and either have or had MKs: Ger, Vizhnitz, Belz? In addition a few other sects are members of UTJ.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #149 on: April 16, 2019, 08:39:10 AM »
Most chassidim vote. Only a few sects do not
Just a small thought I had, there was 40+ parties running in this election. If Satmar would vote, there would have been another few parties

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #150 on: April 16, 2019, 08:44:06 AM »
Just a small thought I had, there was 40+ parties running in this election. If Satmar would vote, there would have been another few parties
Cmiiw, but I don't think there are that many satmar living in EY. There are some others that don't vota, but I think it would probably translate into maybe 1-2 more seats. No source for these numbers, just what it seems to me

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #151 on: April 16, 2019, 09:07:02 AM »
Most chassidim vote. Only a few sects do not
Do women of communities where they don't drive vote?
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #152 on: April 16, 2019, 09:07:56 AM »
Do women of communities where they don't drive vote?
Of course
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #153 on: April 16, 2019, 09:09:48 AM »
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #154 on: April 16, 2019, 09:43:37 AM »
Do women of communities where they don't drive vote?
I have no clue.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #155 on: April 16, 2019, 09:49:10 AM »
Segregated M/F lines?
They coordinate the timing with the men and women.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #156 on: April 16, 2019, 11:44:09 AM »
Segregated M/F lines?
Segregated M/F lines in the Makolet?

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #157 on: April 16, 2019, 01:49:17 PM »
I don't know if that is accurate, the math is very complex (see image I posted above). Lieberman is indeed a headache, and Netanyahu knows that UTJ and Shas are probably the most reliable partners.

As for losing the 8th, that would be a shame. I think Pindrus is a very talented guy (I've heard good things about him from people that worked with him when he was mayor of Beitar) who has been a victim of political games (mostly by his own faction) played over the last decade or so.

I have a sense (maybe a hope) that the last local election in Israel were the low point of מחלוקת, and we are on a way up from here towards productive unity with mutual respect. Let's hope that we see only positive and uniting actions and words henceforth.

Seems like UTJ is at 8 after official results published, at the expense of Likud.

https://13news.co.il/item/news/politics/elections-2019/netanyahu-peretz-221106/
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #158 on: April 16, 2019, 01:55:45 PM »
Just a small thought I had, there was 40+ parties running in this election. If Satmar would vote, there would have been another few parties
They can be a different party but would probably come together for the election.
Cmiiw, but I don't think there are that many satmar living in EY. There are some others that don't vota, but I think it would probably translate into maybe 1-2 more seats. No source for these numbers, just what it seems to me
If you include all the Yirushalmis that don't vote your taking about 2+ seats IMHO
Seems like UTJ is at 8 after official results published, at the expense of Likud.

https://13news.co.il/item/news/politics/elections-2019/netanyahu-peretz-221106/
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #159 on: April 16, 2019, 02:34:40 PM »
Do women of communities where they don't drive vote?

Ishto K'Goof oh - their husbands get to vote twice.

In communities where they regulate women's exercise classes and the color of their underwear, I can't imagine they would let them vote.