Poll

Who are you leaning towards?

Likud
5 (17.2%)
Blue and White
0 (0%)
Shas
0 (0%)
Charedi Parties(UTJ Aguda)
15 (51.7%)
Labor
2 (6.9%)
Zeut
1 (3.4%)
Meretz
0 (0%)
Yisroel Bateinu
0 (0%)
New Right (Bennet, Shaked)
1 (3.4%)
Kahane Parties
5 (17.2%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: April 09, 2019, 05:19:44 AM

Author Topic: 2019-2022 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)  (Read 225685 times)

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #160 on: April 16, 2019, 03:31:48 PM »
Seems like UTJ is at 8 after official results published, at the expense of Likud.

https://13news.co.il/item/news/politics/elections-2019/netanyahu-peretz-221106/
Awesome. So Pindrus is in?

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #161 on: April 16, 2019, 05:42:20 PM »
Yes

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #162 on: April 16, 2019, 07:59:14 PM »
Yes
Nice. Finally back on the map since his lost mayoral race. He did a lot for Beitar in his day. Brought in a lot of foreign funds to build up the city.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #163 on: April 16, 2019, 08:14:59 PM »
In EY elections is very personal,
its either a Mitzvah to vote or an Avairah, Either you love the party or hate it on a personal level.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #164 on: April 16, 2019, 08:26:20 PM »
In EY everything is very personal,
its either a Mitzvah or an Avairah, Either you love it or you hate it on a personal level.
FTFY.  :P

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #165 on: April 16, 2019, 09:50:50 PM »
Among Jews

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #166 on: May 13, 2019, 11:01:46 PM »
Any update on coalition talks? I haven’t really heard anything lately

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #167 on: May 13, 2019, 11:25:40 PM »
Any update on coalition talks? I haven’t really heard anything lately
Looks like Bibi is having trouble putting together one
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #168 on: May 14, 2019, 06:33:13 AM »
Any update on coalition talks? I haven’t really heard anything lately

Lieberman holding out.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #169 on: May 14, 2019, 07:03:51 AM »
Lieberman holding out.
He’s no good, he hates the chareidim and he’s not dependable, he left the last coalition.
I still think Bibi should try to take away some MKs from Gantz, has there been any talk of that? I’m sure it shouldn’t be too hard to find 5-6 guys that would rather be in the government than in the opposition, and anyways from What I hear, there’s a lot of infighting in Ganz’s party. Everyone there wants to be in charge

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #170 on: May 29, 2019, 05:34:23 PM »
Round 2 coming up.

I can't figure out why they don't just do it as a two round system in the first place.

Round one needs to get 1/120th of electorate to get into round 2. Round 2 to be held two weeks later needs 1/12th (or other high threshold) to get in. That way all agreements get done before round 2, people know better what they are voting for, and the circus and demands get reduced).
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #171 on: May 29, 2019, 07:38:48 PM »
Not a bad idea, but very hard to get the vote out twice.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #172 on: May 29, 2019, 07:50:00 PM »
The polls are predicting a similar outcome, where the right wing bloc has 59+ Liberman, so we may only be at the beginning of this circus.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #173 on: May 29, 2019, 08:30:53 PM »
The polls are predicting a similar outcome, where the right wing bloc has 59+ Liberman, so we may only be at the beginning of this circus.

Sorry, not familiar with the details of the Israeli system. In the Sep. redo is it the exact same parties? If not, could Bennet and Shaked go back with the National religious party because their splinter cost that block 4 seats because they failed to meet the minimum.  Just those extra Dati Leumi votes could make a new majority.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #174 on: May 29, 2019, 08:39:22 PM »
It's an open election, anybody can run. The problem with that is Shaked is not religious, and those parties have religious agendas. Shaked will likely join either the Likud or Liberman where she can have a more significant career.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #175 on: May 29, 2019, 11:27:18 PM »
Shaked will probably join likud. Not sure about Bennet.

If feiglin voters dump him and you have Bennet and feiglin voters voting right parties.. that and Arab party not making cut could swing right wing block to 70+ seats

So Lieberman would not be a factor.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #176 on: May 30, 2019, 01:10:34 AM »
Shaked will probably join likud. Not sure about Bennet.

If feiglin voters dump him and you have Bennet and feiglin voters voting right parties.. that and Arab party not making cut could swing right wing block to 70+ seats

So Lieberman would not be a factor.
IMHO it’s a futile exercise to try to predict anything at this point before we even know who’s in the race (as in party mergers and shifts).
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #177 on: May 30, 2019, 05:02:43 AM »
IMHO it’s a futile exercise to try to predict anything at this point before we even know who’s in the race (as in party mergers and shifts).

Very true but it seems like Feiglin is looking to join with another party based on posts he put out today. Bennett has to realize he is a nothing without Shaked and he should be like Eli Yishai giving his votes to another party.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #178 on: May 30, 2019, 06:04:06 AM »
Very true but it seems like Feiglin is looking to join with another party based on posts he put out today. Bennett has to realize he is a nothing without Shaked and he should be like Eli Yishai giving his votes to another party.
Do you really think anyone (except for possibly Lieberman) would take him.

I think Lieberman might take some votes away from Blue and White, as he's singing a similar tune to Lapid.

I also think that overall Blue and White might set a record as the fastest and most spectacular crash of Israeli politics.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #179 on: May 30, 2019, 07:28:04 AM »
Do you really think anyone (except for possibly Lieberman) would take him.

I think Lieberman might take some votes away from Blue and White, as he's singing a similar tune to Lapid.

I also think that overall Blue and White might set a record as the fastest and most spectacular crash of Israeli politics.

I think Feiglin will join with Bayit Yehudi and Bennett will join with Lieberman.