Poll

Who are you leaning towards?

Likud
5 (17.2%)
Blue and White
0 (0%)
Shas
0 (0%)
Charedi Parties(UTJ Aguda)
15 (51.7%)
Labor
2 (6.9%)
Zeut
1 (3.4%)
Meretz
0 (0%)
Yisroel Bateinu
0 (0%)
New Right (Bennet, Shaked)
1 (3.4%)
Kahane Parties
5 (17.2%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: April 09, 2019, 05:19:44 AM

Author Topic: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)  (Read 65726 times)

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #330 on: September 18, 2019, 07:05:51 PM »
@kolhaolam was reporting that the blue and white faction has 56 seats. Is that’s including the Arabs? Have they ever sat in a government before? Would they do it just to ruin Bibi?

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #331 on: September 18, 2019, 07:07:34 PM »
@kolhaolam was reporting that the blue and white faction has 56 seats. Is that’s including the Arabs? Have they ever sat in a government before? Would they do it just to ruin Bibi?
yes, no, maybe but unlikely.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #332 on: September 18, 2019, 09:44:17 PM »
Here's a reason why Netanyahu wouldn't form a unity government:

I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #333 on: September 19, 2019, 12:01:31 AM »
How is that worth 4-5 extra seats? The smallest party that made it in has 173k so far and 5 seats. At best, it's 3 seats divided between those parties. More likely that some of those voters would either stay home or vote for a different party that isn't making it in. I think it's a cost of 1-2 seats maximum.

It can round things up. I.e. like top up some votes on other parties that would have carried over 4-5 seats.

I'm just speculating... It's also possible that some of otzama voter's may not have voted at all had they run with yamina.

But yes even if he cost the right 3 seats, that is huge!!

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #334 on: September 19, 2019, 12:14:59 AM »
It can round things up. I.e. like top up some votes on other parties that would have carried over 4-5 seats.

I'm just speculating... It's also possible that some of otzama voter's may not have voted at all had they run with yamina.

But yes even if he cost the right 3 seats, that is huge!!
Any reason they couldn't make the same leftover votes pact some on the left (I think) made? Isn't that a win-win situation?

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #335 on: September 19, 2019, 12:30:34 AM »
Here's a reason why Netanyahu wouldn't form a unity government:


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/269126

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Asked if Joint List chairman Ayman Odeh will head the opposition, Tibi replied, “The law does not say that the head of the largest party in the opposition automatically becomes the leader of the opposition, but rather that any MK whom most of the MKs in the opposition recommend (will be the chairman of the opposition). An Arab MK will not be allowed to be the chairman of the opposition, so I tell you - this is a utopia.”

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #336 on: September 19, 2019, 12:51:41 AM »
Any reason they couldn't make the same leftover votes pact some on the left (I think) made? Isn't that a win-win situation?

Leftover pact only works of both sides of the pact get in. Bigger question is why they couldn't create a unified front/bloc like the Arabs did!?


רבי יוסי ממלחיא ורבי יהושע דסכנין בשם רבי לוי אמרו: מצינו תינוקות בימי דוד, עד שלא טעמו טעם חטא - היו יודעין לדרוש את התורה מ"ט פנים טמא ומ"ט פנים טהור, והוה דוד מצלי עליהון. הדא הוא שדוד אומר 'אתה ה' תשמרם' - אתה ה' נטר אורייתהון בלבהון. 'תנצרם מן הדור זו לעולם' - מן הדור ההוא שהוא חייב כליה.

אחר כל השבח הזה, יוצאין למלחמה ונופלין?!

אלא ע"י שהיו בהם דלטורין היו נופלין.

....

אבל דורו של אחאב - כולן עובדי עבודת כוכבים היו, ועל ידי שלא היו בהן דילטורין - היו יוצאין למלחמה ונוצחין.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #337 on: September 19, 2019, 08:49:00 AM »
Unofficial results:
B&W 33
Likud 31
Arabs 13
Shas 9
Lieberman 8
UTJ 8
Yemina 7
Labor 6
Democratic Camp 5
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #338 on: September 19, 2019, 08:53:31 AM »
I thought our elections were messed up. This has my head spinning.
You're so far up Trump's a** you can see Giuliani's feet.  HT Baruch

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #339 on: September 19, 2019, 09:11:58 AM »
I thought our elections were messed up. This has my head spinning.

I love trying to explain to colleagues that even though the election is over - it's far from over

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #340 on: September 19, 2019, 09:17:44 AM »
I love trying to explain to colleagues that even though the election is over - it's far from over
So no majority means yet another election? WOW could you imagine if we had that here? We would run out of Kool-Aid.  :)
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #341 on: September 19, 2019, 09:20:13 AM »
So no majority means yet another election? WOW could you imagine if we had that here? We would run out of Kool-Aid.  :)
Pretty much the only other option is a unity government with netanyahu and gantz
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #342 on: September 19, 2019, 09:21:26 AM »
Pretty much the only other option is a unity government with netanyahu and gantz
Can you explain in terms of our left, right and center? Who is who?
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #343 on: September 19, 2019, 09:21:34 AM »
Is lieberman going to say gantz should be PM?
or is he not going to say anyone?

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #344 on: September 19, 2019, 09:23:25 AM »
Can you explain in terms of our left, right and center? Who is who?
netanyahu is right  gantz is center left . only question is which other parties will also get involved
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