Poll

Who are you leaning towards?

Likud
5 (17.2%)
Blue and White
0 (0%)
Shas
0 (0%)
Charedi Parties(UTJ Aguda)
15 (51.7%)
Labor
2 (6.9%)
Zeut
1 (3.4%)
Meretz
0 (0%)
Yisroel Bateinu
0 (0%)
New Right (Bennet, Shaked)
1 (3.4%)
Kahane Parties
5 (17.2%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: April 09, 2019, 05:19:44 AM

Author Topic: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)  (Read 102485 times)

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #460 on: September 26, 2019, 06:35:36 AM »
The public is the voting public. The people won't stand for it. They don't agree on anything other than that
The question is by not standing for it do they vote in Bibbi or B&W. This may happen all over again in the 3rd elections. 
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #461 on: September 26, 2019, 07:44:10 AM »
Another brilliant move by Netanyahu, asking to have his hearing streamed live.

The left thrives on secrecy and obscurity.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #462 on: September 26, 2019, 08:00:12 AM »
There's still the possibility that members of the knesset could just decide to break with their parties and vote for someone.

This in theory could have been the case I nthe last election, but they voted to dissolve instead.

It should not be understated that Israeli is having financial problems, and elections make it worse (and themselves are costly).

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #463 on: September 28, 2019, 02:19:24 PM »
Gantz repeated that he won't sit with Bibi. Bibi should just turn around tomorrow and daysay Gantz is being unreasonable and return the mandate. Would be a legit move
Looks like this will happen tomorrow
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #464 on: September 28, 2019, 07:33:25 PM »
Looks like this will happen tomorrow
I think it may be a bluff to get Lieberman/Peretz to capitulate.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #465 on: September 28, 2019, 10:17:06 PM »
I read recently, that while both candidates preferred to go 2nd, there is some benefit in the Knesset for the party that is tabbed first.
I don't remember what it is, or where I saw the article. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #466 on: September 28, 2019, 10:39:30 PM »
I read recently, that while both candidates preferred to go 2nd, there is some benefit in the Knesset for the party that is tabbed first.
I don't remember what it is, or where I saw the article. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

That was the initial thought, because they get to appoint Knesset committees, but the AG said that if the mandate is returned and reassigned to someone else, the committees can get reappointed.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #467 on: September 28, 2019, 11:11:20 PM »
That was the initial thought, because they get to appoint Knesset committees, but the AG said that if the mandate is returned and reassigned to someone else, the committees can get reappointed.
Oh.
I was thinking that Bibi will wait for the Knesset to go into session this week, so he gets the committees, and then right after he will return the mandate.
But now I was seeing reports he may return it as soon as today. Although, im not sure what he will gain, because I doubt that Rivlin will tap Gantz already before Rosh Hashana.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #468 on: September 29, 2019, 09:56:38 AM »
Oh.
I was thinking that Bibi will wait for the Knesset to go into session this week, so he gets the committees, and then right after he will return the mandate.
But now I was seeing reports he may return it as soon as today. Although, im not sure what he will gain, because I doubt that Rivlin will tap Gantz already before Rosh Hashana.

Most recent reports are that Netanyahu and Gantz are scheduled to meet face to face on Wednesday in last ditch effort to resolve the impasse.

As far as what is there to gain by returning it to Rivlin ASAP, there's lots to gain from a PR standpoint, while maintaining his position as transitional PM.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #469 on: September 29, 2019, 01:21:08 PM »
As far as what is there to gain by returning it to Rivlin ASAP, there's lots to gain from a PR standpoint.

Won't people see it as him trying to get new elections?

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #470 on: October 01, 2019, 05:21:57 PM »
Polls are showing more people blame Bibbi for the failure than Gantz, which is probably why Gantz cancelled the meeting.

I think Bibbil will return the mandate early next week, he's more likely to get Lieberman/Peretz/Gantz to blink in the 21 days left before elections. Rivlin will probably not give the mandate to Gantz, although that would probably play to Bibbi's favor as Gantz wouldn't be able to hide behinds his mask of silence and it would finally become evident what a group of clowns they are

Don't see how this ends, even if the Likud loses 5 seats in the 3rd elections Bibbi can create the same impasse.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #471 on: October 01, 2019, 11:55:57 PM »
Correct. I can't see how Bibi loses on a 3rd election.
If he picks up 6 seats, he is pm all by himself.
If Gantz picks up 6 seats, he still isn't pm without a unity gov with Likud.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #472 on: October 02, 2019, 12:15:30 AM »
Everyone is expecting the outcome of the hearing to be a game changer.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #473 on: October 02, 2019, 12:22:51 AM »
For months we have been hearing that he will be indicted.
What are the chances that he won't?
What crime is it to ask the press for better coverage? Cmon!

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #474 on: October 02, 2019, 09:58:45 AM »
What crime is it to ask the press for better coverage? Cmon!
The crime isn't to ask for better coverage, it's to offer something (specifically government action) in exchange for that coverage.

Not saying he did, but that's the charge

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #475 on: October 02, 2019, 04:28:45 PM »
After the hearings next week, Mandebilt announces he intends to indict Bibi. After that, things are very different
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #476 on: October 02, 2019, 10:33:10 PM »
Mandelblit is not planning to announce anything until December.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #477 on: October 02, 2019, 10:41:56 PM »
After the hearings next week, Mandebilt announces he intends to indict Bibi. After that, things are very different

Do you actually believe the things you write?
If you listen to what someone who knows a thing or two says, you might not be so convinced in what you wrote.

https://youtu.be/3VGxPPZ1WNM

And while I don't necessarily think it will have to wait until December, there are reasons to believe he won't announce anything immediately (except if the evidence is so overwhelming towards promptly dropping all the indictments).
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #478 on: October 03, 2019, 12:38:00 AM »
My pov is that if they had what to indict Bibi over, they would have already.

Personally don't care, he's a good pm and there are no alternatives. He's better than anyone in his party etc ..

Next election no otzama.

I feel likud gains a few and right wing Bloc gains a few..


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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #479 on: October 03, 2019, 12:57:23 AM »
Everyone is expecting the outcome of the hearing to be a game changer.
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