Poll

Who are you leaning towards?

Likud
5 (17.2%)
Blue and White
0 (0%)
Shas
0 (0%)
Charedi Parties(UTJ Aguda)
15 (51.7%)
Labor
2 (6.9%)
Zeut
1 (3.4%)
Meretz
0 (0%)
Yisroel Bateinu
0 (0%)
New Right (Bennet, Shaked)
1 (3.4%)
Kahane Parties
5 (17.2%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: April 09, 2019, 05:19:44 AM

Author Topic: 2019-2022 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)  (Read 225628 times)

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #500 on: November 11, 2019, 11:33:55 AM »
-1

Chareidim are the most predictable.
Will they sit with Lapid?

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #501 on: November 20, 2019, 08:58:14 AM »
Here we go again....

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #502 on: November 20, 2019, 09:04:17 AM »
title will need to be updated to 2020

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #503 on: November 20, 2019, 11:41:13 AM »
title will need to be updated to 2020

And to make it "elections" plural

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #504 on: November 20, 2019, 11:44:53 AM »
And to make it "elections" plural

Yeah, keep it plural and just put starting in 2019, as there's no indication that another round will have any different outcome.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #505 on: November 20, 2019, 12:11:36 PM »
There's still a 21 day period in which anyone can get 61 signatures. I would not be shocked if bibi gets 61, which would then give him 14 more days to actually form a government.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #506 on: November 20, 2019, 12:18:01 PM »
Yeah, keep it plural and just put starting in 2019, as there's no indication that another round will have any different outcome.
Maybe they'll get rid of the Lieberman clown. I don't see what anyone would vote for someone who keeps holding the country back. Nevermind that his whole platform at this point is just hate.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #507 on: November 20, 2019, 01:06:57 PM »
Maybe they'll get rid of the Lieberman clown. I don't see what anyone would vote for someone who keeps holding the country back. Nevermind that his whole platform at this point is just hate.
His base likes him.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #508 on: November 20, 2019, 01:11:05 PM »
Maybe they'll get rid of the Lieberman clown. I don't see what anyone would vote for someone who keeps holding the country back. Nevermind that his whole platform at this point is just hate.
His base likes him.
+1

And he came across as someone that puts country before himself.... A strong centric govt of Bibbi- Ganz while claiming that he's ok staying outside...

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #509 on: November 20, 2019, 01:12:54 PM »
Once Lieberman declared support for a direct election for PM, the end is obvious. There is a solid majority to pass that, there will be a special election for PM, bibbi and the right will win again, ובא לציון גואל
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #510 on: November 20, 2019, 01:25:30 PM »
Once Lieberman declared support for a direct election for PM, the end is obvious. There is a solid majority to pass that, there will be a special election for PM, bibbi and the right will win again, ובא לציון גואל
Not happening. Even Lieberman conceded that it cannot happen in this stage with a transitional government in place. Only once a permanent government is installed can the system be changed.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #511 on: November 20, 2019, 01:33:32 PM »
+1

And he came across as someone that puts country before himself.... A strong centric govt of Bibbi- Ganz while claiming that he's ok staying outside...
Like by saying he would support a govt including Arabs?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #512 on: November 20, 2019, 01:35:38 PM »
So change it just for this election.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #513 on: November 20, 2019, 01:52:01 PM »
So change it just for this election.
I think it's pretty evident bibi would win in a head to head vs gantz.

He probably already has a majority, and I'm sure a lot of Arabs will abstain.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #514 on: November 20, 2019, 06:20:00 PM »
In a direct election, how does it work with the rest of the Knesset?

Lets say, there was a direct election now, and Bibi beats Gantz, how will Bibi be able to pass any bills for the next 4 years, if he only has 55 out of 120 supporting him for anything?

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #515 on: November 20, 2019, 06:27:02 PM »
I'm no expert, but is it time to switch to directly electing a PM and a party separately?
Said this 2 months ago. I don't see another way forward.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #516 on: November 20, 2019, 06:37:47 PM »
In a direct election, how does it work with the rest of the Knesset?

Lets say, there was a direct election now, and Bibi beats Gantz, how will Bibi be able to pass any bills for the next 4 years, if he only has 55 out of 120 supporting him for anything?

Which is part of the reason they did away with it. Though back then the minimum threshold to enter the Knesset was much lower.

I think that having a two round election might be a better option, but there again it's all up to the details.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #517 on: November 20, 2019, 07:11:29 PM »
In a direct election, how does it work with the rest of the Knesset?

Lets say, there was a direct election now, and Bibi beats Gantz, how will Bibi be able to pass any bills for the next 4 years, if he only has 55 out of 120 supporting him for anything?

It can give cover to someone (Labor?) to join a government under Bibi. None of them want to be blamed for allowing Bibi to remain PM, but once that is decided they may take whatever they can get in exchange for supporting him.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
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