Poll

Who are you leaning towards?

Likud
5 (17.2%)
Blue and White
0 (0%)
Shas
0 (0%)
Charedi Parties(UTJ Aguda)
15 (51.7%)
Labor
2 (6.9%)
Zeut
1 (3.4%)
Meretz
0 (0%)
Yisroel Bateinu
0 (0%)
New Right (Bennet, Shaked)
1 (3.4%)
Kahane Parties
5 (17.2%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: April 09, 2019, 05:19:44 AM

Author Topic: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)  (Read 38811 times)

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #570 on: December 16, 2019, 05:29:32 PM »
My point is a political one. If bibi wins a direct election without a majority, I don't think it forces gantz to join a coalition politically. I'm not sure how a minority government PM is any better.
Meh.
In the runoff he would have a majority or he would not and someone else would.
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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #571 on: December 17, 2019, 08:20:30 AM »
The US does not have a parliamentary system. Also just take a look at Washington.
Canada has been running with a minority govt for some time now. Votes are gathered by a bill to bill basis.

And if ( barely )works in the US that has a 2 party system, it can work in a parliamentry system. It will simply cost the taxpayer more.

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Re: 2019 Israeli election
« Reply #572 on: February 03, 2020, 01:00:07 PM »
Well the topic here needs to be 2020 Israeli election.

So NEtanyahu goes to Africa meets with the Uganda PM the Sudanese FM and almost gets a commitment to open an Embassy in Jerusalem. Can anyone see Gantz having this ability to meet world leaders on this level? What in the world does anyone see in the man (outside being the Joe Biden of Israel)?!?!?

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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #573 on: February 03, 2020, 01:03:58 PM »
Well the topic here needs to be 2020 Israeli election.
Title updated.
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #574 on: February 03, 2020, 01:05:27 PM »
Does the peace plan announced help Bibi?
Does being joined at the hip with Trump help him?
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #575 on: February 03, 2020, 01:10:26 PM »
Does the peace plan announced help Bibi?
Does being joined at the hip with Trump help him?

Problem is those who did not vote for Bibi wont vote for him this round regardless of what he accomplishes. They have a full blown hate agenda against him. What this does help him is in his negotiations with YB when the time comes. I do not think there will be an election in the next 5years with a clear victory for the right (remember the left have zero chance of forming a govt given they have max 45 seats). But Lieberman cannot turn down Netanyahu offer if he is offering annexation as it will make Lieberman look very weak in any further elections.

The part that surprises me is the Shas/Gimmel vs YB, I thought it would simmer down so there would be a hope for a coalition.

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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #576 on: February 03, 2020, 01:12:58 PM »
I haven't been following closely, but I think Bibi is a victim of his own success. Everyone admits that he's doing a very good job as Prime Minister, but thing have been going so well for so long that it's become the norm and people don't realize that they are risking that because "it's someone else's turn"

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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #577 on: February 03, 2020, 01:14:43 PM »
Problem is those who did not vote for Bibi wont vote for him this round regardless of what he accomplishes. They have a full blown hate agenda against him. What this does help him is in his negotiations with YB when the time comes. I do not think there will be an election in the next 5years with a clear victory for the right (remember the left have zero chance of forming a govt given they have max 45 seats). But Lieberman cannot turn down Netanyahu offer if he is offering annexation as it will make Lieberman look very weak in any further elections.

The part that surprises me is the Shas/Gimmel vs YB, I thought it would simmer down so there would be a hope for a coalition.
Does Trump carry any weight or a non-issue?
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #578 on: February 03, 2020, 01:16:18 PM »
Does being joined at the hip with Trump help him?

It's another data point on his phenomenal success in foreign policy.

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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #579 on: February 03, 2020, 01:16:40 PM »
Does Trump carry any weight or a non-issue?

Trump has a 95% approval in Israel and still has not helped him in the past.

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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #580 on: February 03, 2020, 01:18:27 PM »
It's another data point on his phenomenal success in foreign policy.
Please lets not go there. We have the other thread for that.
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #581 on: February 03, 2020, 01:18:48 PM »
Trump has a 95% approval in Israel and still has not helped him in the past.
Interesting.
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #582 on: February 03, 2020, 01:19:26 PM »
The part that surprises me is the Shas/Gimmel vs YB, I thought it would simmer down so there would be a hope for a coalition.

Hate is a very powerful political weapon that has gotten Liberman this far. What made you thing he would stop using it?

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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #583 on: February 03, 2020, 01:20:11 PM »
Please lets not go there. We have the other thread for that.

I'm talking about Bibi's success not Trump's.

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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #584 on: February 03, 2020, 01:20:47 PM »
I'm talking about Bibi's success not Trump's.
Sorry.
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