2019-2022 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)

[ExGingi]

Netanyahu calls for emergency unity government.

B&W just concluded their internal consultations. Gantz said he's willing to join unity government on the only condition that no-one is excluded (i.e. Arabs shouldn't be left out).

[mme]

Gantz said he's willing to join unity government on the only condition that no-one is excluded (i.e. Arabs shouldn't be left out).

he want's bibi should take  them in so after the emergency gov expires  he should be able to form a gov with there support!
but he is asking bibi to form a gov with them part of it when his challenge was to form only with there support from the outside he is trying to make the argument that its the same thing!

[ExGingi]

he want's bibi should take  them in so after the emergency gov expires  he should be able to form a gov with there support!
but he is asking bibi to form a gov with them part of it when his challenge was to form only with there support from the outside he is trying to make the argument that its the same thing!

Don't credit Gantz with any of this strategy. It most likely originated from Offer Shelach and others party strategists. Gantz is no match to Netanyahu at a one-on-one match. I must say that it's an interesting game being played from all sides (including Lieberman, who seems to be the only one to be able to come close to Netanyahu with strategic game moves, but might be close to trapping himself).

Bibi's potential response is: Are you saying that in this time of national emergency you are willing to undermine the possibility of a properly functioning government, and lead the country to round 4, over your insistence to include murder sympathizers in the unity government?

[PlatinumGuy]

Don't credit Gantz with any of this strategy. It most likely originated from Offer Shelach and others party strategists. Gantz is no match to Netanyahu at a one-on-one match. I must say that it's an interesting game being played from all sides (including Lieberman, who seems to be the only one to be able to come close to Netanyahu with strategic game moves, but might be close to trapping himself).

Bibi's potential response is: Are you saying that in this time of national emergency you are willing to undermine the possibility of a properly functioning government, and lead the country to round 4, over your insistence to include murder sympathizers in the unity government?

He's started with that.

He has a simple checkmate and that is to announce he accepts the Arabs with a single condition that they unanimously publicly denounce terrorism 100%.

People are forgetting Bibbi doesn't need Gantz now. He remains PM regardless. The big news is that Gantz blinked. Now even if he doesn't sit with Bibbi, somebody else will. Bibbi won.

[ExGingi]

From Amit Segal:

ובהרחבה:


זה היה לילה ארוך של מו״מ עקר: נתניהו וגנץ שוחחו פעמיים בטלפון, השיחה השנייה לאחר חצות.

בשיחה הראשונה נתניהו דרש פגישה של שניהם וגנץ - פגישה של צוותי המו״מ. נתניהו רצה להכניס את כחול לבן אל הקורלס הציבורי של הישיבה תחתיו וגנץ - לצלול לפרטי הישיבה המשותפת שלא יהיו נוחים לליכןד.

שניהם הלכו לבדוק אם יכולים לבוא לקראת השני - וחזרו עם תשובה שלילית. היה די ברור לצדדים שהדרישה להכניס את הרשימה המשותפת היא לצורכי תחזוק הבלוק ולא ריאלית. המשותפת עצמה הרי לא רוצה להיות בממשלה.

ראשי כחול לבן והליכוד לא נדרשו להנחיות משרד הבריאות כדי לשמור מרחק. משא החשדנות והמשטמה בין הצדדים בשיאו, למרות הקורונה ושוועת הציבור לפתור כבר את המשבר הפוליטי הכרוני רגע לפני שהמגפה מתנפצת בעוצמה אדירה אל חופי ישראל.

ההערכות מדברות על עוצר כמעט כללי החל בעוד שבועיים, ועד אז יצטרכו להגיע לסיכומים. אבל כאלה אין, בינתיים. נתניהו רוצה ממשלת חירום בסגנון 1967 שבה כחול לבן נוטלת חלק סמלי, גנץ מוכן לממשלת רוטציה שוויונית בסגנון 1984. אולי בצר להם יסכימו על צו חירום כמו ב-1948, שיקפיא את המצב לשלושה חודשים, עד שהמגיפה תחלוף אולי ואז יחזרו להתקוטט בדיוק בנקודה בה הפסיקו.

עד שיהיו הסכמות, כחול לבן מתכוונת לקבל את הרכבת הממשלה בראשון, להחליף את יו״ר הכנסת בשני ולהתחיל בחקיקת חוק נתניהו בשלישי, במידה שהדבר בכלל אפשרי. יש לצדדים עוד 48 שעות להגיע בכל זאת להסכמה על מתווה.  גם אל מול הקטסטרופה הגדולה, נמשכת הפוליטיקה של יום קטנות.

[ExGingi]

https://twitter.com/AvigdorLiberman/status/1238903204441722881

[Proisrael]

Joint list has recommended Gantz including Balad. What a shameful day for Israel. This will be a complete nightmare if he is leading the country through this Corona.

[ExGingi]

Joint list has recommended Gantz including Balad. What a shameful day for Israel. This will be a complete nightmare if he is leading the country through this Corona.

Doesn't look good to our eyes, but trust the one that truly runs the world.

[ExGingi]

Doesn't look good to our eyes, but trust the one that truly runs the world.

Now that the entire United Arab List recommended Gantz, noting that they are doing it for the sake of their unity and out of hatred to Netanyahu, it is now up to Lieberman whether he will endorse Gantz and be the one to have enabled a government through the power of the United Arab List.

[Proisrael]

Now that the entire United Arab List recommended Gantz, noting that they are doing it for the sake of their unity and out of hatred to Netanyahu, it is now up to Lieberman whether he will endorse Gantz and be the one to have enabled a government through the power of the United Arab List.

He endorsed Gantz. Our last hope is that the negotiations fail and we see either a unity govt or new elections with Bibi plastering the country with pictures of Gantz and Tibi

[aygart]

He endorsed Gantz. Our last hope is that the negotiations fail and we see either a unity govt or new elections with Bibi plastering the country with pictures of Gantz and Tibi

He should do it already now. Maybe include Leiberman in the picture too.

[Jellybelly]

He should do it already now. Maybe include Leiberman in the picture too.

Agree bibi should also come up with some type of nickname for them that sticks, Trump style

[ExGingi]

He endorsed Gantz. Our last hope is that the negotiations fail and we see either a unity govt or new elections with Bibi plastering the country with pictures of Gantz and Tibi

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We're at a different stage of the political game now. He can't attack. He needs to cause them to implode (if he can). He might have to swallow a lot on the way. My guess is that at the end of the day Gantz doesn't want the Zionist idea to implode, so positions will change.

[ExGingi]

https://www.globes.co.il/news/article.aspx?did=1001322606

[ExGingi]

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B97a6DInwuH/?igshid=6lk9o5k3004e

[ExGingi]

MAJOR development: Gantz putting himself up for election as speaker of the Knesset (against Lapid faction - which plans to boycott the vote, Lieberman, and United Arab List). This could signal the final demise of B&W.

[PlatinumGuy]

B&W is finished.

[yungermanchik]

Kol Haolam

ISRAEL: UNITY DEAL: Netanyahu to remain PM, Gantz FM and will be PM in 18 months. Blue & White gets Defense and Justice ministries. (Channel 12)

[Boruch Parnes]

Thats what the right block gets for backing bibi

[ExGingi]

B&W is finished.

Indeed. Good riddance. Lapid and Yaalon announced that they are splitting from the current B&W list, but request to maintain the B&W name due to the fact that their factions constitute the majority of MKs out of the B&W list.