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Who are you leaning towards?

Likud
5 (17.2%)
Blue and White
0 (0%)
Shas
0 (0%)
Charedi Parties(UTJ Aguda)
15 (51.7%)
Labor
2 (6.9%)
Zeut
1 (3.4%)
Meretz
0 (0%)
Yisroel Bateinu
0 (0%)
New Right (Bennet, Shaked)
1 (3.4%)
Kahane Parties
5 (17.2%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: April 09, 2019, 05:19:44 AM

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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #760 on: July 22, 2020, 01:44:02 PM »
Looks like it not over!
They’re saying they might go to elections again in November

So much noise going on (Amit Segal's Telegram channel is probably the most reliable source of info, and you could choose to like his analysis or not, but the info is accurate) that I didn't even bother posting about it this morning. It's a kindergarten on steroids.
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #761 on: July 22, 2020, 01:47:12 PM »
Worth noting the latest crisis is B&W support of a law barring mental health practitioners from gay conversion therapy, which the coalition objects on request of the frum parties
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #762 on: October 23, 2020, 08:46:00 AM »
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/why-is-the-once-rising-joint-list-falling-fast-in-polls-646619
In what world is Lapid center-right?
Delusional to think that a gov't with Bennet+Lapid+Gantz+Liberman could be formed
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #763 on: October 23, 2020, 08:54:28 AM »
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/why-is-the-once-rising-joint-list-falling-fast-in-polls-646619
In what world is Lapid center-right?
Delusional to think that a gov't with Bennet+Lapid+Gantz+Liberman could be formed

Who isn't delusional in that country? (Speaking of MSM and politicians)
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #764 on: November 30, 2020, 03:54:25 PM »
Need a thread title update  >:( >:( >:(
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #766 on: December 01, 2020, 03:41:44 PM »
Need a thread title update  >:( >:( >:(

We should have a vote on an appropriate title, here are some suggestions:
  • Periodic Israeli elections starting April 2019.
  • Bibi's periodic re-election.
  • A kindergarten called Israeli politics runs periodic elections.
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #767 on: December 01, 2020, 03:44:17 PM »
Amit Segal had an interesting line about Gantz's prospects for the upcoming elections:
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ההיסטוריה מלמדת שהבוחרים מוכנים לסלוח לתחמנים. לפראיירים לא.
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #768 on: December 01, 2020, 04:02:28 PM »
Amit Segal had an interesting line about Gantz's prospects for the upcoming elections:
So true. Does he really think he stands a chance to gain seats?
We should have a vote on an appropriate title, here are some suggestions:
  • Periodic Israeli elections starting April 2019.
  • Bibi's periodic re-election.
  • A kindergarten called Israeli politics runs periodic elections.
I vote for option c
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #769 on: December 01, 2020, 05:06:25 PM »
So true. Does he really think he stands a chance to gain seats?
The idea is that he'll lose less by having elections now than having elections later in 2021 after Bibbi brings a vaccine ahead of most of the rest of the world
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #770 on: December 01, 2020, 06:00:26 PM »
The idea is that he'll lose less by having elections now than having elections later in 2021 after Bibbi brings a vaccine ahead of most of the rest of the world
by the time they go to vote they will already have the vaccine   

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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #771 on: December 01, 2020, 06:01:51 PM »
by the time they go to vote they will already have the vaccine
Not enough of it to triumph over Covid until at least May-June.
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #772 on: December 01, 2020, 07:11:09 PM »
So true. Does he really think he stands a chance to gain seats?I vote for option c

Here's the manual for the kindergarten play:

https://www.israelhayom.co.il/interactive/amp/article/825633
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #773 on: December 09, 2020, 03:03:49 AM »
Now with Sa'ar starting his own party, we are almost guaranteed another deadlock
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #774 on: December 10, 2020, 09:58:47 PM »
Now with Sa'ar starting his own party, we are almost guaranteed another deadlock
More parties = higher odds someone will cave and agree to sit with Bibbi. The real fear is that there very well may be 61 anti Bibbi seats without the Arabs and the only thing standing in their way from uniting to dethrone Bibbi will be ego and political ineptitude.
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #775 on: December 11, 2020, 08:11:48 AM »
More parties = higher odds someone will cave and agree to sit with Bibbi. The real fear is that there very well may be 61 anti Bibbi seats without the Arabs and the only thing standing in their way from uniting to dethrone Bibbi will be ego and political ineptitude.
I don't think that will happen. Arabs have a low-end of 12. Chareidim 16. Likud 25. That's already 53 seats. I really don't see the remaining seats being capable of creating a coalition.
Only way it happens is if Lieberman hates Bibi more than he hates the Charedim and sells his soul to Gafne
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #776 on: December 11, 2020, 12:55:40 PM »
I don't think that will happen. Arabs have a low-end of 12. Chareidim 16. Likud 25. That's already 53 seats. I really don't see the remaining seats being capable of creating a coalition.
Only way it happens is if Lieberman hates Bibi more than he hates the Charedim and sells his soul to Gafne
Lieberman very well may do that, but even without that if Meretz doesn't pass, you have 67 anti Bibbi Centerist/Right parties, who have no substantial obstacle to unifying to dethrone him.

I can also see Meretz joining in just for dethroning Bibbi.
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #777 on: December 11, 2020, 01:29:19 PM »
Lieberman very well may do that, but even without that if Meretz doesn't pass, you have 67 anti Bibbi Centerist/Right parties, who have no substantial obstacle to unifying to dethrone him.

I can also see Meretz joining in just for dethroning Bibbi.
How do you get 67?
Which parties are you including?

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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #778 on: December 11, 2020, 01:41:18 PM »
How do you get 67?
Which parties are you including?
B&W Yamina Sa’ar Liberman Yesh Atid

I don’t think they will have the seats, and I don’t think they can pull it off even if they do, but this is the doomsday scenario
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Re: 2019-2020 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #779 on: December 12, 2020, 06:45:01 PM »
B&W Yamina Sa’ar Liberman Yesh Atid

I don’t think they will have the seats, and I don’t think they can pull it off even if they do, but this is the doomsday scenario

This is 57-59. What am I missing?