Poll

Who are you leaning towards?

Likud
5 (17.2%)
Blue and White
0 (0%)
Shas
0 (0%)
Charedi Parties(UTJ Aguda)
15 (51.7%)
Labor
2 (6.9%)
Zeut
1 (3.4%)
Meretz
0 (0%)
Yisroel Bateinu
0 (0%)
New Right (Bennet, Shaked)
1 (3.4%)
Kahane Parties
5 (17.2%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: April 09, 2019, 05:19:44 AM

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1120 on: April 12, 2021, 10:47:46 AM »
Zero chance Bibbi gives Bennet any kind of rotation.
He’d rather go back to elections than do that.
I think he should combine both parties and make him number 2 in likud

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1121 on: April 12, 2021, 11:25:55 AM »
He’d rather go back to elections than do that.
80%+ of the country would rather


I think he should combine both parties
Perhaps the first time you and I have ever agreed. Bibbi did offer that to Bennet. It's a good offer for Bennet but not without its perils.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1122 on: April 12, 2021, 11:32:50 AM »
Perhaps the first time you and I have ever agreed. Bibbi did offer that to Bennet. It's a good offer for Bennet but not without its perils.

Bennet's likely to outlive Netanyahu in Israeli politics, wouldn't he be better off as a tail to the lions?
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1123 on: April 12, 2021, 11:37:00 AM »
Bennet's likely to outlive Netanyahu in Israeli politics, wouldn't he be better off as a tail to the lions?
Joining the Likud is a tail to the lions. He will get a senior position though unlikely #2. The question is if Bibbi will respect the deal or crush him like he does to everybody who rises too high... The Likud is also a democratic organization with strong internal power brokers, there is only so much that can be guaranteed to Bennet in advance.

The real holdup is that even if Bennet wants to join the Likud, they don't have 61 for a government unless Smotrich reneges and agrees to use Arab votes or somebody in the anti-Bibbi bloc supports Bibbi.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1124 on: April 12, 2021, 11:54:04 AM »
Bennet's likely to outlive Netanyahu in Israeli politics, wouldn't he be better off as a tail to the lions?

Outlive him he probably will (function of age) but he ain't PM matter IMHO.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1125 on: April 12, 2021, 02:48:24 PM »
Joining the Likud is a tail to the lions

That's what I meant. I was asking about

80%+ of the country would rather

Perhaps the first time you and I have ever agreed. Bibbi did offer that to Bennet. It's a good offer for Bennet but not without its perils.

Which for the most part you explained, thanks!
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1126 on: April 12, 2021, 02:49:27 PM »
but he ain't PM matter IMHO.

Bibbi is big shoes to fill for anyone. The great Israeli statesmen of yesteryear (whether you agreed with their politics or not) are all gone.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1127 on: April 12, 2021, 03:01:17 PM »
Bibbi is big shoes to fill for anyone. The great Israeli statesmen of yesteryear (whether you agreed with their politics or not) are all gone.

Big shoes to fill, and there might not be someone of his caliber, but you still need to be of certain character and capabilities. Bennet isn't, neither is Lapid, neither is Sa'ar. Maybe Barkat.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1128 on: April 12, 2021, 03:50:25 PM »
Big shoes to fill, and there might not be someone of his caliber, but you still need to be of certain character and capabilities. Bennet isn't, neither is Lapid, neither is Sa'ar. Maybe Barkat.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1129 on: April 12, 2021, 06:47:39 PM »
Bennett said in a short statement to the media: “At our meetings, I told Netanyahu, and I will tell you as well, that the Likud can count Yamina’s MKs as part of a right-wing government. We will do anything to prevent a fifth election.

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1130 on: April 12, 2021, 07:47:44 PM »
Big shoes to fill, and there might not be someone of his caliber, but you still need to be of certain character and capabilities. Bennet isn't, neither is Lapid, neither is Sa'ar. Maybe Barkat.

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1131 on: April 12, 2021, 08:32:55 PM »
במקום שאין איש, איז א הערינג אויך א פיש...

הערינג אין, מינאוז לאו!
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1132 on: April 13, 2021, 05:55:36 AM »
Bennett said in a short statement to the media: “At our meetings, I told Netanyahu, and I will tell you as well, that the Likud can count Yamina’s MKs as part of a right-wing government. We will do anything to prevent a fifth election.
Actions speak louder than words. Yamina refused to vote with the right wing bloc on interim Kennset committee arrangements
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1133 on: April 13, 2021, 06:35:11 AM »
Actions speak louder than words. Yamina refused to vote with the right wing bloc on interim Kennset committee arrangements
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Very easy to say you'll join a right wing government when the is a very low chance that it will come to fruition
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1134 on: April 13, 2021, 03:37:37 PM »


IDF Chief Aviv Kohavi delivered a widely praised speech at the Yom Hazikaron ceremony tonight. Pictured here at a later Kennset ceremony with another potential rising star in Israeli politics, Mossad chief Yossi Cohen (gotta love the dress code)



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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1136 on: April 14, 2021, 06:01:17 AM »
IDF Chief Aviv Kohavi delivered a widely praised speech at the Yom Hazikaron ceremony tonight. Pictured here at a later Kennset ceremony with another potential rising star in Israeli politics, Mossad chief Yossi Cohen (gotta love the dress code)

Why is it that serving in the upper echelon of security forces can make you "a rising star in Israeli politics". Why does that give you any political skills?
Maybe some management skills, but why are they more attractive "potential rising stars" than crossovers from the business world, or promotions from municipal level?

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1137 on: April 14, 2021, 06:52:16 AM »
Why is it that serving in the upper echelon of security forces can make you "a rising star in Israeli politics". Why does that give you any political skills?
Maybe some management skills, but why are they more attractive "potential rising stars" than crossovers from the business world, or promotions from municipal level?

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1138 on: April 14, 2021, 06:54:32 AM »
Why is it that serving in the upper echelon of security forces can make you "a rising star in Israeli politics". Why does that give you any political skills?
Maybe some management skills, but why are they more attractive "potential rising stars" than crossovers from the business world, or promotions from municipal level?
Because in Israel military commanders are perceived as committed, proven, and dependable leaders, likely a result of universal military service and constant security threats.

The IDF has 22 ex-chiefs, and 14 of them became elected politicians, most in senior positions.

Israel had 12 Prime Minsters, of which 2 were IDF chiefs and another 7 were prominent military/intelligence figures.


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