Poll

Who are you leaning towards?

Likud
5 (17.2%)
Blue and White
0 (0%)
Shas
0 (0%)
Charedi Parties(UTJ Aguda)
15 (51.7%)
Labor
2 (6.9%)
Zeut
1 (3.4%)
Meretz
0 (0%)
Yisroel Bateinu
0 (0%)
New Right (Bennet, Shaked)
1 (3.4%)
Kahane Parties
5 (17.2%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: April 09, 2019, 05:19:44 AM

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1240 on: May 28, 2021, 02:14:31 PM »
Any more details?
Is that with the Arab party?
I can’t imagine it lasting too long

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1241 on: May 28, 2021, 06:08:54 PM »
Any more details?
Is that with the Arab party?
I can’t imagine it lasting too long
it helps that during the election cycle bibi isnt PM

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1242 on: May 30, 2021, 01:47:33 AM »
HAS BENNET LOST HIS MIND?

I am sorry I am burning with anger, How can we allow people who call the IDF NAZIS, Accuse Israel of Genocide, stand with our enemies, make a party with the sole intention of destroying the lives of Haredim and religion to run this country?!?!?! What is wrong with Saar and Bennett?!? What they are doing is political suicide! The curses I heap on their traitorous heads will make what happened to Sharon look like childs play!

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1243 on: May 30, 2021, 05:59:27 AM »
The curses I heap on their traitorous heads will make what happened to Sharon look like childs play!
Whoa
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1244 on: May 30, 2021, 06:30:18 AM »
Whoa

This is not American politics, this is peoples lives and he is a traitor if he sits with them. Period. I hope the right spits him out like the dog he will be.

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1245 on: May 30, 2021, 07:13:46 AM »
HAS BENNET LOST HIS MIND?
What is wrong with Saar and Bennett?!? What they are doing is political suicide!
Correct. There is no way that coalition holds very long. I wouldn’t be surprised if Bennet never makes it back to the Knesset.

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« Reply #1246 on: May 30, 2021, 07:29:30 AM »
Any more details?
Is that with the Arab party?
I can’t imagine it lasting too long
The Jerusalem Post published a full list how the upcoming Bennet -Lapid government will most likely look like.

Prime Minister: Naftali Bennett (Yamina)
Alternate Prime Minister/Foreign Minister: Yair Lapid (Yesh Atid)
Defense Minister: Benny Gantz (Blue and White)
Finance Minister: Avigdor Liberman (Yisrael Beytenu)
Justice Minister: Gideon Sa'ar (New Hope)
Education Minister: Yifat Shasha-Biton (New Hope)
Interior Minister: Ayelet Shaked (Yamina)
Transportation Minister: Merav Michaeli (Labor)
Health Minister: Nitzan Horowitz (Meretz)
Public Security Minister: Omer Bar-Lev (Labor) 
Environmental Protection Minister: Tamar Zandberg (Meretz)
Economy Minister: Abir Kara (Yamina)
Construction and Housing Minister: Ze'ev Elkin (New Hope)
Communications Minister: Yoaz Hendel (New Hope)
Religious Affairs Minister: Matan Kahana (Yamina)
Culture and Sports Minister: Chili Tropper (Blue and White)
Agriculture and Rural Development Minister: Alon Schuster (Blue and White)
Regional Cooperation Minister: Esawi Frej (Meretz)
Diaspora Affairs Minister: Emilie Moatti or Gilad Kariv (Labor)
Labor, Social Affairs and Social Services Minister: Pnina Tamano-Shata (Blue and White) or Yisrael Beytenu minister 
Aliyah and Integration Minister: Pnina Tamano-Shata (Blue and White) or Yisrael Beytenu minister 
Tourism Minister: Yesh Atid minister
Energy Ministry: Yesh Atid minister
Science and Technology Minister: Yesh Atid minister
Social Equity Minister:  Yesh Atid minister
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1247 on: May 30, 2021, 08:34:40 AM »
Correct. There is no way that coalition holds very long. I wouldn’t be surprised if Bennet never makes it back to the Knesset.
Any chance that MKs in Bennett’s party jump ship rather than join the coalition?

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1248 on: May 30, 2021, 08:45:21 AM »
Any chance that MKs in Bennett’s party jump ship rather than join the coalition?

No based on this https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/307153

They are all traitors. God willing they will never see the Knesset hall after this.

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1249 on: May 30, 2021, 10:43:19 AM »
No based on this https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/307153

They are all traitors. God willing they will never see the Knesset hall after this.

The epitome of מהרסיך ומחריביך ממך יצאו. Both in the common interpretation people bring it up as, and based on the actual פשט.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1250 on: May 30, 2021, 10:51:21 AM »
The epitome of מהרסיך ומחריביך ממך יצאו. Both in the common interpretation people bring it up as, and based on the actual פשט.
I'm super interested how an election would/will go with Bibi out of the picture. I don't think this government is at all a good thing but I doubt it will last long. Yes it will be setting potentially disastrous precedents and other negative things in motion. There is no denying that Bibi, although IMO being by far the best guy for the job, is an obstacle to a functional government. You can blame the media, you can blame the whoever you want, but right now it's a stalemate. It's interesting that people think Bibi would win direct elections. Just because there wouldnt be a majority for someone else doesn't mean that there isn't a majority against him. I think that's what the results of the last few elections show. There was always going to be a day after. And whoever goes next even in the very best case will be mediocre. Bennet might have done ok if he had the patience and a little integrity. Now it's really looking bleak.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1251 on: May 30, 2021, 10:54:29 AM »
Bennet might have done ok if he had the patience and a little integrity. Now it's really looking bleak.

If we were talking about a half normal electorate, Bennet would have been considered a person who did everything to dig his own political grave. But I wouldn't put anything past Israeli voters.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1252 on: May 30, 2021, 10:59:57 AM »
I'm super interested how an election would/will go with Bibi out of the picture. I don't think this government is at all a good thing but I doubt it will last long. Yes it will be setting potentially disastrous precedents and other negative things in motion. There is no denying that Bibi, although IMO being by far the best guy for the job, is an obstacle to a functional government. You can blame the media, you can blame the whoever you want, but right now it's a stalemate. It's interesting that people think Bibi would win direct elections. Just because there wouldnt be a majority for someone else doesn't mean that there isn't a majority against him. I think that's what the results of the last few elections show. There was always going to be a day after. And whoever goes next even in the very best case will be mediocre. Bennet might have done ok if he had the patience and a little integrity. Now it's really looking bleak.

Is it so clear that he is out of the picture?

A quote from Rabbi Berel Wein seems apropo here: Don't be the guy after THE GUY, be the guy after "the guy after THE GUY". (punctuation mine)
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1253 on: May 30, 2021, 11:01:01 AM »
כמה גדלו דברי מרן "בית של גויים"

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« Reply #1254 on: May 30, 2021, 11:02:47 AM »
Is it so clear that he is out of the picture?

A quote from Rabbi Berel Wein seems apropo here: Don't be the guy after THE GUY, be the guy after "the guy after THE GUY". (punctuation mine)

Like Putin in Russia...
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« Reply #1255 on: May 30, 2021, 11:06:13 AM »
Like Putin in Russia...
I hope that is not where this is headed.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1256 on: May 30, 2021, 11:07:40 AM »
I hope that is not where this is headed.

I wasn't expressing any opinion, just bringing a factual example.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1257 on: May 30, 2021, 11:08:19 AM »
The Jerusalem Post published a full list how the upcoming Bennet -Lapid government will most likely look like.

Prime Minister: Naftali Bennett (Yamina)
Alternate Prime Minister/Foreign Minister: Yair Lapid (Yesh Atid)
Defense Minister: Benny Gantz (Blue and White)
Finance Minister: Avigdor Liberman (Yisrael Beytenu)
Justice Minister: Gideon Sa'ar (New Hope)
Education Minister: Yifat Shasha-Biton (New Hope)
Interior Minister: Ayelet Shaked (Yamina)
Transportation Minister: Merav Michaeli (Labor)
Health Minister: Nitzan Horowitz (Meretz)
Public Security Minister: Omer Bar-Lev (Labor) 
Environmental Protection Minister: Tamar Zandberg (Meretz)
Economy Minister: Abir Kara (Yamina)
Construction and Housing Minister: Ze'ev Elkin (New Hope)
Communications Minister: Yoaz Hendel (New Hope)
Religious Affairs Minister: Matan Kahana (Yamina)
Culture and Sports Minister: Chili Tropper (Blue and White)
Agriculture and Rural Development Minister: Alon Schuster (Blue and White)
Regional Cooperation Minister: Esawi Frej (Meretz)
Diaspora Affairs Minister: Emilie Moatti or Gilad Kariv (Labor)
Labor, Social Affairs and Social Services Minister: Pnina Tamano-Shata (Blue and White) or Yisrael Beytenu minister 
Aliyah and Integration Minister: Pnina Tamano-Shata (Blue and White) or Yisrael Beytenu minister 
Tourism Minister: Yesh Atid minister
Energy Ministry: Yesh Atid minister
Science and Technology Minister: Yesh Atid minister
Social Equity Minister:  Yesh Atid minister
Jerusalem Affairs, Ministerial Liaison to the Knesset:  Yesh Atid minister
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This is redefining insanity into 'doing something different'

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1258 on: May 30, 2021, 11:10:11 AM »
This is redefining insanity into 'doing something different'

Or in other words: Hamas might get their stated objective faster by allowing Israeli politics to play themselves out than by firing rockets.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1259 on: May 30, 2021, 11:11:33 AM »
Is it so clear that he is out of the picture?

A quote from Rabbi Berel Wein seems apropo here: Don't be the guy after THE GUY, be the guy after "the guy after THE GUY". (punctuation mine)
It's not so clear he is out of the picture, but any half decent right wing alternative will do better than him for PM now.
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