Poll

Who are you leaning towards?

Likud
5 (17.2%)
Blue and White
0 (0%)
Shas
0 (0%)
Charedi Parties(UTJ Aguda)
15 (51.7%)
Labor
2 (6.9%)
Zeut
1 (3.4%)
Meretz
0 (0%)
Yisroel Bateinu
0 (0%)
New Right (Bennet, Shaked)
1 (3.4%)
Kahane Parties
5 (17.2%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: April 09, 2019, 05:19:44 AM

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1360 on: June 13, 2021, 03:47:35 PM »
The Knesset swears in the 36th government, appointing the formerly right-wing Naftali Bennett who decided to get in bed with terrorist supporters the next prime minister and removing Netanyahu from power after 12 consecutive years. The so-called “change government” is approved with 60 of the Knesset’s 120 lawmakers in favor and 59 opposed.

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The fact that they are smiling while Mansur Abbas gave that speech is chilling.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1361 on: June 13, 2021, 03:53:03 PM »
Forgive me for doing this, but I took the liberty to release a more accurate statement from President Biden.




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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1363 on: June 14, 2021, 11:34:27 AM »
Does Gantz ever smile?
Before the rift :

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1364 on: June 14, 2021, 02:33:06 PM »
Looks like the government has its first test tomorrow with the flag parade.
I can’t imagine them letting the parade go on.

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1365 on: June 14, 2021, 07:42:44 PM »
https://twitter.com/guyzo/status/1404511179263860740

Looks like the government has its first test tomorrow with the flag parade.
I can’t imagine them letting the parade go on.

The parade is definitely happening. The test if Hamas is bluffing or will attack, and how the swindler’s government will respond. It’s looking like Hamas is toning down their threats from missiles to incendiary balloons.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1366 on: June 15, 2021, 02:57:48 AM »
I think that the Likud has a wrong message saying this is a stolen government. It's not accurate and makes them sound like Trump. What they should be saying is this is a government which doesn't reflect the will of the electorate and isn't reflective of the results of the election.

I am not generally super charedi politically, but it makes me want to vomit when I hear super modern rabbis supporting the new government because charedim had too much power on the previous one.  I will have no sympathy for them when this government shows it's colors on religion
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1367 on: June 15, 2021, 07:55:26 AM »
I am not generally super charedi politically, but it makes me want to vomit when I hear super modern rabbis supporting the new government because charedim had too much power on the previous one.  I will have no sympathy for them when this government shows it's colors on religion

TBH the way some of the Charedi politicians have been talking recently makes me want to vomit (Arye Deri seemingly the exception, maintaining a civil yet firm and focused discourse).

Litzman could have conveyed the message of hoping the current government will fall while coming across more mature and civilized in his words to Elkin. I can't say that the way Litzman and Gafni have been expressing themselves seems to be מרבה כבוד שמים.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1368 on: June 15, 2021, 08:00:08 AM »
TBH the way some of the Charedi politicians have been talking recently makes me want to vomit (Arye Deri seemingly the exception, maintaining a civil yet firm and focused discourse).

Littman could have conveyed the message of hoping the current government will fall while coming across more mature and civilized in his words to Elkin. I can't say that the way Litzman and Gafni have been expressing themselves seems to be מרובה כבוד שמים.
Can't argue with this
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1369 on: June 15, 2021, 08:04:44 AM »
Can't argue with this

I am so glad that I never had the opportunity (which would have obligated me) to vote in Israeli elections.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1370 on: June 15, 2021, 08:05:57 AM »
I am so glad that I never had the opportunity (which would have obligated me) to vote in Israeli elections.
This year it allowed me to show my kids what a school looks like

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« Reply #1371 on: June 15, 2021, 08:09:07 AM »
TBH the way some of the Charedi politicians have been talking recently makes me want to vomit (Arye Deri seemingly the exception, maintaining a civil yet firm and focused discourse).

Litzman could have conveyed the message of hoping the current government will fall while coming across more mature and civilized in his words to Elkin. I can't say that the way Litzman and Gafni have been expressing themselves seems to be מרבה כבוד שמים.

The sad part about it is that when it comes to actions, the Charedi politicians are probably better than most others in doing things for the good of ALL, but the second they open their mouth (Again, with Deri and possibly some other Shas MKs, the exception) they sound so sectorial and divisive that one would feel a need to disassociate from them.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1372 on: June 15, 2021, 08:11:08 AM »
I think that the Likud has a wrong message saying this is a stolen government. It's not accurate and makes them sound like Trump. What they should be saying is this is a government which doesn't reflect the will of the electorate and isn't reflective of the results of the election.
But then they'll sound like Hillary...

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1373 on: June 15, 2021, 08:29:44 AM »


The Charedi politicians are probably better than most others in doing things for the good of ALL
איפה אתה חי?
Mb in terms of their political positions being usually conservative. For everything else it's כל המרבה במחיר.
They are a huge disgrace. Opposing a national inquiry into meiron, the current bribe scandal, Malka Leifer, jobs for the boys, Gafni funneling money every which way he desires in ועדת הכספים, The list is endless. Maybe you can say everyone else is just as bad. To me they just aren't, and even it they were it doesn't make it any less disgusting.
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« Reply #1374 on: June 15, 2021, 08:36:46 AM »
איפה אתה חי?
Mb in terms of their political positions being usually conservative. For everything else it's כל המרבה במחיר.
They are a huge disgrace. Opposing a national inquiry into meiron, the current bribe scandal, Malka Leifer, jobs for the boys, Gafni funneling money every which way he desires in ועדת הכספים, The list is endless. Maybe you can say everyone else is just as bad. To me they just aren't, and even it they were it doesn't make it any less disgusting.

IDK. I don't live there and don't watch day-to-day (אני לא חי שם...) but IIRC when Litzman was in the MOH he was quite popular with the general public.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1375 on: June 15, 2021, 08:43:55 AM »
IDK. I don't live there and don't watch day-to-day (אני לא חי שם...) but IIRC when Litzman was in the MOH he was quite popular with the general public.
Malka Leifer is not enough for you? To me that's literally accessory to murder.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1376 on: June 15, 2021, 09:02:38 AM »
Malka Leifer is not enough for you? To me that's literally accessory to murder.

I am not familiar with all the details of the Malika Leifer story. Not judging based on headlines. I might personally dislike Litzman, Gafni and a bunch of others, but if I were ever there on the day of an election I might have still voted for them despite personal dislike (and possibly ideological differences). Hence why I am glad to never have had that נסיון.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1377 on: June 16, 2021, 11:15:02 AM »
The sad part about it is that when it comes to actions, the Charedi politicians are probably better than most others in doing things for the good of ALL, but the second they open their mouth (Again, with Deri and possibly some other Shas MKs, the exception) they sound so sectorial and divisive that one would feel a need to disassociate from them.

Just received the following video today. This is in such stark contrast to the way the Charedi politicians are behaving/talking. It is possible to disagree and maintain a dialog that doesn't build resentment.

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1378 on: June 16, 2021, 11:34:04 AM »
Just received the following video today. This is in such stark contrast to the way the Charedi politicians are behaving/talking. It is possible to disagree and maintain a dialog that doesn't build resentment.
A lot of the charedi establishment in Israel sees mutual resentment as a beneficial contribution to maintaining a barrier and preventing negative influence.

It is a polar opposite of Chabad, and while extreme the difference in positions was already illustrated by  Yehousha who mingled with the Mergalim to help them as opposed to Caleb who isolated himself to preserve his own righteousness.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1379 on: June 16, 2021, 11:38:05 AM »
One of the rumored potential defectors

https://twitter.com/yairnetanyahu/status/1405185350771879937

The context is a brewing crises where the coalition doesn’t have enough votes to pass the annual extension of a law that blocks naturalization of some Palestinians - as has been done for the past 17 years, and it’s unclear if the right wing opposition members will come to the rescue.

https://twitter.com/daphnaliel/status/1405144927739256832

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