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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737 crash. 150+ dead
« Reply #240 on: December 23, 2019, 10:39:04 AM »
It's not going to be grounded.

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737 crash. 150+ dead
« Reply #242 on: January 10, 2020, 12:50:53 PM »
https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/9/21059420/boeing-employees-messages-737-max-investigation-simulator-crash
https://onemileatatime.com/737-max-designed-by-clowns/

I'm starting to think this is a good idea


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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737 crash. 150+ dead
« Reply #243 on: January 10, 2020, 12:53:52 PM »
I'm starting to think this is a good idea


Ryanair did just that
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737 crash. 150+ dead
« Reply #244 on: January 10, 2020, 12:55:15 PM »
Ryanair did just that

not officially yet, only on paint. I mean it should become the the 797 or something, remove 737/MAX completely from its name

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737 crash. 150+ dead
« Reply #245 on: January 10, 2020, 03:49:52 PM »

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737 crash. 150+ dead
« Reply #246 on: January 14, 2020, 11:59:27 AM »
https://onemileatatime.com/boeing-737-max-lion-air-simulator/

Boeing is at fault for making MCAS react to just one sensor and I have no idea why only AA has 2 sensors. And Boeing should have better disclosed MCAS.
But pilots should know how to turn off MCAS.

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IMHO there is no excuse for putting a pilot with 200 hours in the cockpit of a commercial airliner.

AA and WN wouldn't have had a student co-pilot either...



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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737 crash. 150+ dead
« Reply #247 on: January 14, 2020, 12:01:43 PM »
https://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2020/The-Latest-Information-About-737-MAX-Operations-OPS-DIS/default.aspx

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An Update on the Boeing 737 MAX
Updated Jan. 14, 2020 at 10:30 a.m. CT. Based on the latest guidance, American Airlines anticipates that the resumption of scheduled commercial service on Americanís fleet of Boeing 737 MAX aircraft will occur June 4, 2020.
Updated Jan. 14, 2020 at 10:30 a.m. CT.


Based on the latest guidance, American Airlines anticipates that the resumption of scheduled commercial service on Americanís fleet of Boeing 737 MAX aircraft will occur June 4, 2020.

American Airlines remains in continuous contact with the Federal Aviation Administration, Department of Transportation and Boeing. Based on the latest guidance, the airline anticipates that the resumption of scheduled commercial service on Americanís fleet of Boeing 737 MAX aircraft will occur June 4, 2020. Once the aircraft is certified, American will run flights for American team members and invited guests.

Frequently asked questions
Question: When will American run a schedule change and inform customers who were booked on a MAX from April 7 through June 3?
Answer: American had previously canceled service on the MAX through April 6. On Jan. 19, American will run a formal schedule change, and customers who were previously booked on a MAX through June 3 will see their reservation updated on aa.com. Additional refinements to our schedule through June 3 will also occur in February 2020.

Question: Will there be additional changes to the schedule once the MAX returns to commercial service?
Answer: American expects to gradually phase in the MAX for commercial service and will increase flying on the aircraft throughout the month of June. Since American will gradually phase the MAX into our operation over the course of a month, additional refinements to our schedule may occur. Affected customers will be contacted directly.

Question: My flight wasnít scheduled to be on a MAX. Will it be canceled?
Answer: A flight that was not scheduled as a MAX flight might be canceled to enable our team to cover a MAX route with a different aircraft, in order to affect the smallest number of customers. In total, approximately 140 flights will be canceled per day through June 3.

Question: How will customers know if they are impacted?
Answer: Americanís Reservations team will contact affected customers directly by email or telephone beginning Jan. 19. Customers who booked through a travel agent will be contacted by their agency directly.

Question: What is Americanís rebooking policy for when the MAX returns?
Answer: Details regarding policies and procedures for customers who do not wish to fly on the MAX once the aircraft enters scheduled service June 4 will be released in the coming weeks.

Question: My flight was canceled and I donít want to rebook. Can I get a refund?
Answer: Yes. If a flight is canceled and a customer chooses to not be rebooked, they may request a full refund by visiting aa.com/refunds.

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737 crash. 150+ dead
« Reply #249 on: January 15, 2020, 05:16:07 PM »
anybody want to weigh in if it is a safe airline for jfk-add-jnb considering 3 crashes in 10 years
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737 crash. 150+ dead
« Reply #250 on: January 15, 2020, 06:13:05 PM »

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737 crash. 150+ dead
« Reply #251 on: January 15, 2020, 06:32:13 PM »
Also don't imagine you can blame them for the max disaster.
That's certainly debatable.
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737 crash. 150+ dead
« Reply #252 on: January 15, 2020, 06:41:24 PM »
That's certainly debatable.
At this point with all that's come out of Boeing  the past few months I'd say the cause seems pretty clear for this crash. There may be a debate on whether the pilots could have done a better job dealing with the MCAS system. Hard for me to see it that way though.

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737 crash. 150+ dead
« Reply #253 on: January 15, 2020, 07:32:13 PM »
At this point with all that's come out of Boeing  the past few months I'd say the cause seems pretty clear for this crash. There may be a debate on whether the pilots could have done a better job dealing with the MCAS system. Hard for me to see it that way though.
There's rarely one cause for a crash. The pilots had instructions about MCAS at this point and failed to properly carry them out. That's not to say Boeing isn't at fault, but that's also not to say the ET pilots are blameless.
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737 crash. 150+ dead
« Reply #254 on: January 15, 2020, 07:36:12 PM »
as well this is their third crash in this decade q is if that is a real reason to be worried
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